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Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by Trundle on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:06PM (#13430771)
They are owned by people though and your wife's underwear drawer is not a person either.
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by toomuchtodo on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:07PM (#13430798)
> They are owned by people though

That does not mean the corporate entity has personhood and the rights that status conveys.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by Trundle on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:12PM (#13430838)
The data they requested didn't have personhood either yet the discussion went straight to whether the corporation does. Why is that if ownership doesn't encompass property rights?
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by toomuchtodo on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:14PM (#13430857)
Because ownership rights are not absolute. The IRS can dig through your personal and corporate finances to ensure you're compliant with your required tax liability payments, why would you think the Department of Labor wouldn't be permitted the same?

EDIT:

> I don't care to discuss what the law is sorry.

Why would we discuss theory and not the actual law? The law is all that matters, as that's what will be enforced.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by Trundle on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:22PM (#13430926)
When you denied corporations having personhood despite them having personhood in the eyes of the law, I assumed you were interested in discussing the concept from an ethics pov rather than a legal one.

I'm sure the department of labor knows exactly what it can and can't request and even if it doesn't it, an entity with lawyers on payroll, would definitely have more of an idea on US law than me, a non-American non-lawyer.

I don't care to discuss what the law is sorry.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by j4kp07 on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @08:47PM (#13432273)
> The IRS can dig through your personal and corporate finances

Keyword: Finances

And from what I understand, Oracle has turned all of those over. But you and others, are demanding unfettered access to every nook, cranny and file cabinet they possess.

You sound like a disgruntled socialist that simply hates bigger and better people/companies succeeding in life.

> Why would we discuss theory and not the actual law?

Said the person who hasn't read SCOTUS rulings on corporation's right to privacy, due process of law, etc.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by toomuchtodo on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @09:22PM (#13432430)
You don't want to follow federal government contractor regulations, don't take federal dollars. Otherwise, produce the docs you're required to.

> You sound like a disgruntled socialist that simply hates bigger and better people/companies succeeding in life.

I hate entitled companies who don't think they have to follow the rules. They deserve the boot on their neck.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by Trundle on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:41PM (#13431091)
Because we find discussing theory fun? What does "all that matters" mean? This is a recreational discussion that carries no practical weight.
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by j4kp07 on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @08:43PM (#13432251)
SCOTUS disagrees with you "My Friend" and I'm pretty sure they have more experience in these matters.
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by Quanttek on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:10PM (#13430820)
> and your wife's underwear drawer is not a person either.

wtf?? When you invade a person's privacy it's rarely jsut about the personbeing nude. Of course it is almost always about private possessions or data. So this reasoning is complete BS. The thing is that the owner is in one case a person, in the other case a corporation. Just because the corporation is owned by group of people rarely means the private data of the company is the private data of its owners.