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Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by jonathanstrange on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:18AM (#13427447)
I think it looks like a marvelous idea, but the question is, how do you intend to afford to run this with all this promises of zero advertising, never selling out to investors, and remaining nonprofit forever?

Please don't misunderstand me, Wikipedia is also nonprofit and seems to work quite well, and it's a noble goal. I just happen to also remember my "eternal, irrevocable and always free" [email protected] email address. They went bankrupt pretty rapidly. (I'm pretty sure that was the domain then, now it seems to be owned by some guide to US states and cities.)

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by nine_k on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:28AM (#13427552)
I don't see why being a non-profit means being also a no-revenue.

Add a paid layer, with premium features. Make premium features a gift option to other accounts, so that it could be a token of appreciation.

Add a paid layer with the only paid feature being a "proud supporter" badge. Surprisingly many people take pride in that when it costs them a $5.

Add a donation button, run donation campaigns. It works for Wikipedia :)

There's no need to avoid being paid.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by highway_to_hell on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:30AM (#13427573)
Thanks for your comments!

We simply charge £2.99 per year. We won't block any features from unpaid users unless we're running at a loss.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by nine_k on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:38AM (#13427669)
I would try adding a "peace of mind" option: a 10-year subscription for e.g. £25.

Another idea would be to somehow help me keep the important people on the service by paying for me and for them in one go, but I can't readily come up with something that sounds enticing.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by dullroar on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:52AM (#13427807)
Yeah, I was thinking that, too. At the current price point I would gladly pay for about 10 people to get those important to me over to the service without having to count on them paying for it. That seems like one way to help build up the "network effect" yet get past the cheapskates among friends and family. :)
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by fusion_cow on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:42PM (#13428377)
That's an absolutely brilliant idea and we wish we could hire you right now to come up with more of them! >.< (Team member here)
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by nine_k on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @02:09PM (#13429313)
Sorry, good ideas are rare, and past achievements are not a guarantee of future performance :)

If you actually used the idea, I'd be thoroughly flattered.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by finid on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @02:16PM (#13429370)
If you're look to hire an ideas person, may I apply?
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by lyra_comms on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @03:11PM (#13429849)
Hello! We're not hiring anyone for the near future, but please drop your CV to [email protected] and we will hold on to it.
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by highway_to_hell on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:29AM (#13427566)
Thanks! Mr Norrell here from the Lyra team.

A subscription to Lyra costs £2.99 (about $3.70) per year. That's cheaper than a shit coffee. (Member of the team here)

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by al_chemist on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @01:12PM (#13428665)
"Our product - cheaper than a shit coffee"

That's a hell of a marketing slogan.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by fusion_cow on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @01:38PM (#13428974)
I'm not sure whether you're being ironic, but I'd prefer something a little more positive in terms of a slogan ;)
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by webnrrd2k on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:16PM (#13432961)
Our product - worth more than a good cup of coffee, and costs less!
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by lyra_comms on Thursday January 19, 2017 @07:54AM (#13435337)
Now that is much better :)
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by josepi_ on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:15PM (#13428054)
I'm curious what you think is so marvelous about it. What sets this apart from, say, Reddit or HN? The idea seems to be displaying "conversations" as a tree. You don't need a new platform to do that.
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by fusion_cow on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:33PM (#13428269)
Hello! Hope you don't mind if I refer you to this page: https://www.hellolyra.com/about?page=how-lyra-works

And this one: https://www.hellolyra.com/about?page=how-lyra-compares

The points which are most blindingly marvellous are a) control over your audiences and your news feed and b) a respect for language and words, which comes across in lots of different places in the interface.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by UhUhUhUh on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @02:26PM (#13429485)
I remember coming across a site a few years ago, whose owner would kick out anyone who posted without proper grammar or spelling. To preserve the word I think there also needs to be some form of enforcement.
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by lyra_comms on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @03:12PM (#13429852)
The tools you use affect the way you think. You can do a lot with positive reinforcement as opposed to enforcement!
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by brokenmachine on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @09:21PM (#13432425)
What positive reinforcement does Lyra offer?
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by lyra_comms on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:02AM (#13435404)
The reward of seeing a nicely-formatted message which you wrote, and the reward of seeing replies to it which are obviously valued by the platform (as opposed to subsumed under a torrent of irrelevant notifications).
Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by brokenmachine on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @07:28PM (#13431857)
> b) a respect for language and words, which comes across in lots of different places in the interface.

Can you please give an example of how Lyra encourages a respect for language and words, when it is not moderated?

I'm trying hard not to be rude, as I respect anyone who produces their own platform, but as I see it, the only thing that makes words extra important in Lyra is the fact that it doesn't support images and other media.

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by lyra_comms on Thursday January 19, 2017 @07:58AM (#13435366)
Hello! Lyra encourages respect for language by providing editing tools, and display tools, that respect language. For instance, we never truncate comments (like Facebook). We offer users the chance to write a nicely formatted message rather than a "poke" or emoticon. We use paragraphs (an exquisitely tuned tool for guiding the eye across a section of text, evolved over several hundred years.

We are basically saying: your words are important, and we won't hide them.

Another massively important way in which we value language is that we don't build tools for the viral spreading of clickbait into our platform.

Moderation is a separate issue from whether you respect language or not. Lyra is carefully designed to be harrassment-proof without the need for moderation. We do this by prioritising people rather than online spaces (like forums or subreddits).

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by josepi_ on Thursday January 19, 2017 @02:18AM (#13433792)
That's my hangup. This promises a lot but only delivers on not having algorithms for your content and not having ads. That's great but adblock takes care of the ads and the algorithms are often not so big a deal (e.g. when subscribing to a small subreddit). I see literally not reason why it would encourage the language buzzwords.

And frankly, the UI is clunky af!

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by lyra_comms on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:01AM (#13435388)
Hello! Adblock doesn't take care of the fact that everything Facebook does is built around the concept of serving ads. Even if you block them, you're still using an ad network.

Lyra isn't aiming to move into Reddit's space. Reddit is a machine for sorting strangers' comments by interestingness.

The UI is constantly improving; can you tell us some specific issues you have so that we can look at them?

Re:Lyra: a platform for deep, meaningful conversations with ... by kej on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @02:21PM (#13429428)
Typo on the how-lyra-works page, first paragraph in profiles section, dlick -> click

Seems like a neat project, though.