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Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by lacker on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @01:40AM (#13424558)
This was a really interesting post. Thanks for writing it.

First with MySQL and then with MongoDB, a pattern is emerging. There's a popular open-source database. Its feature set is awesome and the ecosystem of software on top of it is good because lots of people are using it, but it's buggy and unreliable. So it's controversial. Since it's popular, it keeps being developed, and over time, it slowly gets more reliable.

To me this post is a reminder that, just because I can see clear flaws with a competing product, it doesn't mean those flaws are exploitable. Better to focus on what your own customers are demanding than on criticisms of your competitor.

Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by jeremyjh on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @06:58AM (#13425738)
The problem with MySQL early on was exactly its feature set. Fifteen years ago it was very far behind Postgres yet much more popular. I do not think it even had InnoDB/transactions at that point (or almost no one used it), definitely did not have user defined functions, procedures and many other features developers took for granted in commercial RDBMS.

Like MongoDB, it was popular mostly for being popular, which is a nice gig if you can get it.

Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by jacobush on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @07:45AM (#13425931)
Also it was fast on crappy hardware and easy to compile and setup. 80%. Better is worse. Unix.
Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by jpgvm on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @07:59AM (#13425986)
That is not Unix. Unix is small, composable, correct and 80% of what you need (you write the rest). It doesn't mean 20% of quality was sacrificed.
Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by pvg on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @08:25AM (#13426128)
The original "worse is better" example is precisely about Unix making a trade-off in which it gives up on "correctness"
Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by niftich on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:54AM (#13425477)
Market timing, excitement (some of which later turns into hype), mindshare, and marketing make for a difficult combo to beat. The post-mortem covered addressed market timing and hinted at the rest, but is reluctant to call out MongoDB's marketing.

I can't help but wonder if the story had been different if the RethinkDB devs organized a bunch of codecamps and positioned their db as the 'default choice'. This is how Mongo gained a ton of mindshare, helped by other trends at the time, like the NoSQL wave, the Node.js boom, and the renaissance of client-side JS development.

Re:RethinkDB Postmortem by sgift on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @05:29AM (#13425361)
> (...) Since it's popular, it keeps being developed, and over time, it slowly gets more reliable.

Or people simply don't care/are not willing to pay for alternatives. MongoDB looks as unreliable as it was on the first day, but somehow people don't seem to care. I hope it's because their use-cases can live with the unreliability, but in fear it's because "won't happen to me, just to others".