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Re:Phone numbers are not proper verification by herbst on Monday January 16, 2017 @04:54AM (#13409105)
I shouldnt have mentioned banking, it seems that this is what most people agree with that numbers make sense. And hence i agree to that as well.

One of my banks offers the following 2 alternatives:

* Paper TAN (which most likely will go away in the next years)

* Card reader that scans your EC card

Both completely valid for my situation, my other bank does none of both. Both however are completely valid just not as confidient for the bank i guess.

My whole point is having alternatives, or at least a workflow to fix this issue for people who do not have a fixed phone number (anymore). Its sucks to have way less security as everybody else (because i cant enable 2FA) when email was always there and pretty much just as good. It sucks even more to not be able to create a account because somehow they dont want your current number (I mean how crazy is that that you can not make a Twitter account with one of the most popular Thai providers? How is that not a huge issue?)

Re:Phone numbers are not proper verification by tomhoward on Monday January 16, 2017 @05:09AM (#13409146)
Yeah, I get what you're saying.

But for every new system/feature/mechanism a service provider builds to accommodate every increasingly narrow edge-case, there's a huge additional cost and commitment in development, maintenance and support.

So the reality is it just comes down to dollars. If you're in the mainstream, you'll be looked after. If you're in the fringes, well, you're in the situation you're in now. That's how the world works.

Whilst complaining might help you to feel better, it's not going to change much unless there are big dollars at stake for the service provider.

Re:Phone numbers are not proper verification by herbst on Monday January 16, 2017 @05:18AM (#13409179)
I agree for the most part, but i also hope that my rant helps to put this thought into peoples heads. With several smaller providers i had to talk to when i lost my number it became clear they simply did not spend a single thought on this edge case yet. Some of them now have a workflow to solve this cases, which is really all i am asking for.