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Re:Opera Neon concept browser by gcp on Thursday January 12, 2017 @04:06PM (#13386109)
it's probably cheaper now to compete in the browser space than ever

In the browser space, yes. In the API and platform space, no. Every other browser has already resigned to just "do what Chrome does" instead of expecting Chrome to confirm to the standards as written.

Do you not see how this is a huge hedge for Google? You control the platform and APIs, you rule the world.

Microsoft used to understand this very well.

On top of that, if you have to compete in the browser space by forking off of Google's rendering engine and web platform, you're always going to be behind.

Re:Opera Neon concept browser by pvg on Thursday January 12, 2017 @05:23PM (#13386711)
Do you not see how this is a huge hedge for Google? You control the platform and APIs, you rule the world.

Why do you think I don't see that?

On top of that, if you have to compete in the browser space by forking off of Google's rendering engine and web platform, you're always going to be behind.

Why? That's certainly not what happened with Google's browser.

Re:Opera Neon concept browser by gcp on Friday January 13, 2017 @02:14PM (#13393769)
Why? That's certainly not what happened with Google's browser.

Because they can outspend you in engineering resources to push forward, and working with someone elses stack is a burden, not a blessing, if the other side moves more quickly (and forces you to rebase).

Re:Opera Neon concept browser by pvg on Friday January 13, 2017 @11:52PM (#13396953)
I don't remember arguing that developing a modern browser is cheap - I'm responding to the strange notion that the availability of a full open source browser from Google somehow makes things harder for competitors. It doesn't. And, again, as to forking - Apple created a competitive browser by forking an opensource project, Google created another one forking Apple's. This is demonstrably a viable and arguably more effective way of developing a browser.