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Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by runn1ng on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:36AM (#13381725)
I don't get it.

Why is native better than browser application? Browser application is by definition better sandboxed and can do much less damage to the system.

Normal application can do mayhem. And Telegram needs root access for installation... do I want to give it root access? When I can just open another tab?

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by Mithaldu on Thursday January 12, 2017 @08:01AM (#13381847)
Performance considerations.

Telegram at idle sits at 80mb ram and <0.01% cpu. Wire for example sits at 250mb idle and waffles between 0.05% and 2% cpu. Discord sits at 200mb idle and waffles between 0.01% and 0.10%, leaning towards the latter, jumping above it every few seconds at least.

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by pjmlp on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:41AM (#13381743)
Some users enjoy that software developers take advantage of the features of the OS they bought for a better UI/UX and performance.
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by Philipp__ on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:57AM (#13381817)
Normal app can do mayhem just as any app can, even Electron one. I do not use Telegram, and do not know about root access, and it should be investigated. But root access is not always needed for native apps.

Why is it better? Hundreds of reason, you can see down below. I will try to sum it up why I like native over electron in 3 words: responsiveness, robustness, cleanliness. Electron on desktop is resource hog for me. It is good for people that don't mind that, and that are deep into JS ecosystem. I am not, and I always prefer native app, partly because I am on macOS and Cocoa looks beautiful.

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by matthewmacleod on Thursday January 12, 2017 @08:03AM (#13381861)
Electron apps are still native apps and have the same security story. They just include a browser.
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by runn1ng on Friday January 13, 2017 @05:18PM (#13395264)
Oooh, people are comparing native and Electron apps. Then yeah, in that case native makes sense.

I thought they are talking about the chrome app version of telegram, which I am using right now.

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by jhasse on Thursday January 12, 2017 @09:18AM (#13382333)
Telegram Desktop doesn't need root access for installation. It's just a tar.xz file you can extract anywhere.
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by stiGGG on Thursday January 12, 2017 @08:50AM (#13382135)
And i don't get it, why kids today want only a browser. All that flame wars about the best window manager we fought and now we end up with one window only and a fucking tab bar?
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by nicoulaj on Thursday January 12, 2017 @01:57PM (#13385033)
Don't worry, they will invent tiling window managers inside a browser tab next.
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by runn1ng on Friday January 13, 2017 @06:45PM (#13395797)
Isn't Opera experimenting on that now? :)