Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by oftenwrong on Sunday January 08, 2017 @01:27PM
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"I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh largest army in the world..."
- Former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by wavefunction on Sunday January 08, 2017 @01:59PM
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A couple of airstrikes from a real military would clear that right up.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by gravypod on Sunday January 08, 2017 @02:43PM
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NY,NEW YORK,2320-01-074-7642,"TRUCK,ARMORED",1,Each,65070,2012-06-15
NY,NEW YORK,2350-01-069-6931,"CARRIER,107 MILLIMETER MORTAR",1,Each,205400,2012-06-15
I'm not sure if it's just the truck or if the mortar tube was included too. [0]Now, I'm not sure if that includes the actual mortar or just the vehical and I know a real airstrike and a mortar strike aren't exactly the same thing..... but it's close and definetly not settling.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by wavefunction on Sunday January 08, 2017 @03:20PM
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I am a big critic of both the militarization of police and tough-talking billionaires. No worries!
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by gravypod on Monday January 09, 2017 @10:00AM
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The joke is that the NYPD could very well "airstike" you so I'm not sure why you'd think a "airstrikes from a real military" would change our mind.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by jessriedel on Sunday January 08, 2017 @12:03PM
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> BTW NYC doesn't have and army nor secret courts
Once data is in the hands of NYC, it can be freely shared with the federal government.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by Spooky23 on Sunday January 08, 2017 @12:05PM
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Once two Federal law enforcement agents decide the information is relevant, Uber will un-freely share with the Federal government.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by madgar on Sunday January 08, 2017 @02:04PM
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What's hilarious about this statement to me is that there is a real, transparent political debate happening in NYC right now because the city government wants to prevent data from being shared with the incoming federal government (look up "IDNYC"). Citizens are participating in that actual debate because they can.
I trust my city government far more than I trust Uber to protect my data.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by rokosbasilisk on Sunday January 08, 2017 @05:11PM
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Why do you trust your city government ? I cant see any one fighting the feds and winning here.
I wouldnt trust either.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by Stanish on Sunday January 08, 2017 @01:01PM
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Once data is in the hands of uber, it can also be shared with the government.
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by gumby on Sunday January 08, 2017 @05:33PM
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AND: in today's news, Uber bribes local governments with data: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/08/technology/uber-movement-t...
Re:NYC proposes rule to collect GPS data on car service pass...
by gravypod on Sunday January 08, 2017 @11:33AM
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>> Uber isn't backed by an army, secret courts, and they can't decide to through me in jail.
> You have it backwards
How do I enlist in Uber's army? How do I become a judge? How do I get a badge for Uber's police force? I'm quite apt with firearms knowladge and if they need an armorer they can give me a call.
Or Uber doesn't have an army so I don't think I have it backwards.
You have it backwards (and BTW NYC doesn't have and army nor secret courts).
Yes, the us gov sadly has secret courts and of course an army et al. But it's also subject to some constraints, such as the very one that gives rise to this blog post: government agencies typically have to announce their plans and have them open for discussion.
Does the process always work? Of course not! But it's a lot more transparent than how corporations can be. People are outraged by secret spying, secret torture etc. And why do governments do that stuff in secret? Because they know it will cause outrage. Some governments (e.g. DDR & Norks to name a few), do it overtly because the very knowledge of the spying is part of its value.
Whereas there are few tools to control the same actions by corporate entities.
I do expect an erosion of these secret programs over the next 20 years. However they may be overshadowed by corporate databases.
Our governments, being made of people, are hardly right all the time. But neither are our corporations (and they are indeed our corporations, regardless of capital structure because they are permitted to act in the public sphere) as they are also machines operated by people. A foolish knee-jerk reaction in favor of one over the other is intellectually stupid.