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Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by gragas on Sunday January 08, 2017 @11:27AM (#13350444)
One could properly dose this 9-year-old and make him "chill out." I have no doubt that it is possible.

That said, I really agree with your argument. You make a great case for legalization that isn't merely "oh hur dur look how my child mellows out on weed." Thank you.

Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by ritchiea on Sunday January 08, 2017 @11:37AM (#13350512)
The case isn't "my kid mellows out on weed" it's "my kid has behavioral problems that prevent him from functioning at home & in school that are alleviated by weed".
Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by mcguire on Sunday January 08, 2017 @11:53AM (#13350582)
The point, though, as I take it, is, would you be satisfied if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form?
Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by jMyles on Sunday January 08, 2017 @12:09PM (#13350691)
> if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form

What is the advantage of this over raw plant material?

Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by Broken_Hippo on Sunday January 08, 2017 @02:33PM (#13351464)
"What is the advantage of this over raw plant material?"

To a point, consistency. It might not even be pill form: vaporizers, inhalers, and other such things might work as well. It might be that the best way to do it is via hash instead of the unprocessed plant.

All that said, there is some concern with the synthetic. I have a feeling the very reason the plant works better is because of the high. For example, MS patients have problems with muscles. Patients report better mobility and less pain, yet the muscles don't actually improve. It seems it just doesn't bother them - and I imagine some of the synthetics wouldn't produce this effect.

It doesn't mean that synthetics won't work for some folks, though, and might be better for kids.

Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by extra88 on Sunday January 08, 2017 @01:18PM (#13351075)
> What is the advantage of this over raw plant material?

Consistency.

Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by jMyles on Sunday January 08, 2017 @02:11PM (#13351344)
In my experience (which is ample), consistency over the precise dosage != consistency over the effects. There's no doubt that consistency over dosage and precision is easier with isolated compounds.

However, if consistent effect is the goal, I want to suggest that oral administration is not ideal in the first place, and that oral administration of isolated chemicals even less so.

Achieving the latter is more accessible via slow, careful titration via vaporization or smoking of high-quality plant matter.

This is the case at least for me and people I know, including several patients with otherwise debilitating illnesses.

Additionally, I think that the ability to garden and grow medicines (not just cannabis, but plant medicines generally) is a great way for patients to gain some control (or at least the sense of control) over their illness. It also is often more economically viable as well.

Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by jungletek on Sunday January 08, 2017 @09:25PM (#13353506)
It's been done already. The consensus, IIRC, is that it sucks compared to 'natural' forms, is too strong, lacks the 'secondary' active ingredients that many need/seek, and exists as a profit source and a source of control.

https://www.google.com/search?q=marinol&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

etc.

Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by chrischen on Sunday January 08, 2017 @11:48AM (#13350556)
Yes and in fact we do basically give stimulants to roudy kids in the form of Adderall and Vyvance.
Re:I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life by jolux on Sunday January 08, 2017 @12:12PM (#13350710)
Adderall and Vyvanse are basically the same thing, it's just that Vyvanse is the prodrug form that can't be insufflated for quicker delivery. It'll be the same as it is orally.

Methylphenidate is a different beast altogether and not neurotoxic like the amphetamines are even though in therapeutic doses amphetamines are also extremely safe. The difference is that amphetamines are both dopamine reuptake inhibitors and dopaminergic releasing agents while methylphenidate only inhibits dopamine reuptake alongside its effect as a CNS stimulant.