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Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by pjc50 on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:16AM (#13310129)
He's stated that, but why should we believe him and not believe all the various people who have said the opposite?

Russian intelligence are presumably quite capable of laundering it through an intermediary, which would make his statement literally true but misleading.

Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by topspin on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:42AM (#13310388)
I suspect that is precisely the line that WaPo will adopt should they bother to address what Assange has said. They'll scrutinize his ability to know and verify what he is saying and they'll point out all the opposing arguments.

If only WaPo had applied this sort of scrutiny and skepticism to their 'Russians hacked the power system' story; millions of people wouldn't be misled today and perhaps the White House wouldn't be harassing Russian diplomats.

Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by openasocket on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:59AM (#13310542)
Does that timeline add up? The announcement about the diplomats was made Thursday, and I believe the original WaPo article was published on Saturday. You could blame the WaPo for being hasty, but they certainly aren't the reason Russian diplomats are being expelled.
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by alyx on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:20AM (#13310164)
Because unlike the US government, WikiLeaks has a more accurate/transparent track record?
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by snowwrestler on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @01:04PM (#13311272)
What track record does Wikileaks have of positively ID'ing their sources? To my knowledge the opposite is true.
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by skybrian on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:26AM (#13310226)
That argument only works if you trust WikiLeaks and a lot of people don't.
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by zeroer on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @01:04PM (#13311261)
When reasoning with incomplete information, things like history of credibility have to be taken into account. US Intelligence services have been caught in lie after lie. Wikileaks has never been caught lying.

Trust is not binary. You don't have to "trust" WikiLeaks to wonder if there's something sketchy going on.

Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by skybrian on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @07:18PM (#13314564)
Since I don't trust anyone on this issue, my only conclusion is that I don't know what's going on here, and I'm not going to pretend to be an instant expert.

(In particular, I don't trust Wikileaks to know whether they are being played or not. Attribution seems difficult.)

Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by zeroer on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @07:35PM (#13314656)
It's by design that you don't know what's going on here.
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by skybrian on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @08:58PM (#13315067)
Yes, that's how it works. It's still the right conclusion, particularly when you're not paying close attention.
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by rokosbasilisk on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @12:12PM (#13310701)
Alot of people also do trust wikileaks.
Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by metaphorm on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @12:48PM (#13311091)
> why should we believe him and not believe all the various people who have said the opposite?

because he might actually know? it was his organization that received the documents, after all.

is he lying about it? possibly, but what incentive does he have to lie about it?

was he deceived himself? possibly, but if that's the rabbit hole you're going down than what would establish confidence that _any_ claim on this subject is a truthful one?

because the various people claiming the opposite have a clear political agenda that is consistent with the narrative they have been aggressively promulgating through a complicit media? Assange isn't the one trying to start a new cold war. the Clinton faction of the state department and the CIA on the other hand...

Re:Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted... by dragonwriter on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @12:53PM (#13311156)
> because the various people claiming the opposite have a clear political agenda

What is CrowdStrike's "clear political agenda" and where is evidence of it?