Understandable if you are a dissident that's working against Russian interests. Not understandable otherwise, as everything you post online is available for anyone to do with as they choose anyhow.

Only the LiveJournal administrators can remove or alter your content. So it matters a great deal if Russia might want to remove or alter your content.

> Not understandable otherwise, as everything you post online is available for anyone to do with as they choose anyhow.

Russia is a country that heavily censores the internet and opresses its own people. That's a good enough reason.

It's China that heavily censores (sic) the Internet.

Russia just censors, but it's on par with the US, India and other countries. They just don't get their fair of TV coverage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_and_survei...

In what way does the US censor the Internet at all?

No idea.

I'm guessing the sources cited on Wikipedia page are referring to website take-downs of all kinds, including piracy, child porn and such.

In some ways freedom of speech can be used as a tool of surveillance. You say that people can say anything they want, and then you let them tell you who you should be watching via your sophisticated surveillance apparatus.

If it's ok with you, I'd like to know what it was 'huhtenberg meant.

Answering a question about censorship with a response about surveillance is a pretty big non sequitur.

What it boils down to is that we don't censor things, well the reason we don't censor things is because our government does not feel the need to censor things to continue to function. That's because we have methods of dealing with people saying things that we don't want to become common opinion, i.e. we have very sophisticated propaganda tools to sway public opinion that until now were working pretty well. So we don't have to censor. Regimes where they don't have those type of tools have to censor, otherwise they lose power and legitimacy and things become chaotic. You can't control people.

To a Western secularist who basically has a covenant with the State called the Constitution, so it's a religious sort of deal. When the reason is not religious as to why states do this, they don't do it because they are bad or evil people. They do it because they feel that they have no choice and because that's how things in their country with their people.

For the Western States which have destabilized and destroyed many States in the Middle East using this sort of rhetoric, of saving them from a government oppressing its people, they don't have a leg to stand upon. They are not good because they are saving people from an evil dictator that does not follow their covenant. They are in fact at times evil and sociopathic in destroying and destabilizing those states that can not run properly without a dictator.

A person who is working about country's interests is not called dissident, and you definitely should not have been throwing such claims around.

If anyone is looking to jump ship, DreamWidth is a fork of LiveJournal.

Edited the title to better describe what the post was about. I hope that's OK.

I don't know what you had edited it to, but the current title is both true to the title on MeFi and doesn't really tell the gist of the story, which is "LiveJournal servers now located in Russia; purge of dissident accounts alleged" or something like that.

Yeah, it was changed back to original title by mods, it seems.

Ok, we changed it back to what you had.

We've banned this account for trolling.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13291505 and marked it off-topic.

Degeneracy? An interesting term to use. Nicely ambiguous.

"degeneracy" ?! :(

You are, in fact, wrong. There have been multiple attacks on political speech, and even an Australian public service announcement video was censored.

I'm guessing you're not an American or western European, so you should know that very few people here are going to react warmly to comments calling gay people "degenerate", or lumping them in with pornographers.

If you want to send a message to the moderators, and I'm not saying this is a particularly useful one to send, mail [email protected]. There are just a few moderators, and they don't see every bad post.

Direct appeals to the moderators just crud up the threads. The right response to posts you find inappropriate for the site is to flag them.

You have omitted political dissent.

If the Russian state wants to mess with your blog, they will regardless of the geography it's hosted in. Case in point - the recent DNC email hacks.

This post assumes livejournal is somehow working with the state to facilitate censorship or surveillance. That seems a little presumptuous.

Disappointed with the down votes. A company is not the same as the country it operates from