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Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by jcims on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @11:49PM (#13226859)
Didn't Steve have an email that was in your mailbox by default when you got a new account on a NeXT machine? It had some embedded images and an audio file of him talking.

Anyway, I sent whoever it was, pretty sure Steve, an email with read receipt enabled and he bitched me out for invading his privacy. This was ~93 or so.

Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by gruturo on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @05:37AM (#13228132)
Honestly I find read receipt requests to be in very poor taste, if not a sign of outright hostility, and no, having them by default is not an acceptable excuse, no more than forgetting capslock on would.
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by jcims on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @12:01AM (#13306860)
The funny thing is that I never even thought about it, it was my first real email account. But ever since then i've been a vigilant anti-read-receipt person and to this day disable clients from replying to them whenever possible.
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by AimHere on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @09:44AM (#13229451)
Those things annoy me too, but thankfully it's been years since anyone sent me one (unless my mail clients have been silently reporting back to people other than the NSA, of course). I assume the read receipt request button has been made harder to find in newer versions of Outlook or something.

I reckon the correct way to handle these receipt requests is to configure the mail client to send a modified receipt email which also has a read receipt request, and keep replying in kind until your correspondent gets the message (or the mail servers break down due to two bots telling each other that they read the notification that they just read each other's mail telling them they read their mail, of course).

Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by wj on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @10:46AM (#13229964)
It has been a while but with Outlook there was an option to ignore all read receipt requests. Maybe you turned that on?
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by AimHere on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @03:01PM (#13232145)
I don't use Outlook; what I mean is that it seems that other email users aren't sending so many read receipt requests for some reason (such as changes to Outlook's user interface). Either that, or I correspond with a better class of email user these days.
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by kalleboo on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @01:34AM (#13227225)
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by jcims on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @12:00AM (#13306855)
haha, i can't believe you found a screenshot. That's hilarious, i was pretty sure it was Jobs but memory is hazy. Thanks!
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by Theodores on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @10:33AM (#13229857)
Apple must have had lots of emails over the years with people wanting to return a 'Next' shirt or asking if they are going to restock such-and-such jeans again.

There must be someone at Next clothing (next.co.uk) dreaming that Apple sell that domain name to them one day.

Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by mattl on Friday December 23, 2016 @04:31AM (#13243875)
Not so much.

mail.next.com goes to 127.0.0.6

Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by cha-cho on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @04:28AM (#13227845)
I sent him an email from a NeXTStep configured PC in around 1996/97/98 stating I had some window GUI ideas that would give him a distinct advantage over Windows.

As I recall, his reply was terse, along the lines of:

~~~

What are they?

sj

~~~

I was doubtful it was actually the man himself responding. I thought it was some email administrator trying to steal my ideas (I was 20yrs younger then). I proceeded cautiously and don't recall if he replied again.

A decade later I learned terse replies were his MO.

Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by pilsetnieks on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @06:03AM (#13228226)
So you were okay with Steve Jobs personally stealing your ideas but not with his assistant doing so?
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by cha-cho on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @07:53AM (#13228688)
To my young mind, it was more about someone else taking credit for my wonderful ideas. My naive thinking was that Steve Jobs would be dazzled for sure. He'd probably want to hire me or pay me a million dollars, but some other person checking his email or administering the email server... how could I trust them? I was young and foolish and had spent too much time acquiring and configuring a NeXTSTEP compliant SCSI drive and SVGA card.
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by ralfd on Friday December 23, 2016 @01:28AM (#13243252)
What were your dope gui ideas?
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by cha-cho on Friday December 23, 2016 @02:41AM (#13243488)
This is a little embarrassing.

Like most every idea I came up with at the time, it had the word “smart” in it.

Smart Windows.

What are “Smart Windows”? So glad you asked. At the time both NeXTSTEP and MacOS only had resizing handles on the bottom of windows(if I remember correctly). What I proposed was a full perimeter border on windows like what was seen in the Motif Window Manager, CDE, et al.

But wait there’s more...

If you double-clicked the border, the window would jump-move in that direction until it hit either another window border or the edge of the screen. If you held the shift key while double-clicking the window would instead expand in that direction. All together it was a precise way to quickly move and arrange a full screen panel of windows without ever having to drag a window or window border.

I eventually tested out the idea on Windows NT 4.0 inside a Visual Basic project. It was super dope. SJ missed out.

Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by jacobush on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @03:16AM (#13227586)
You see, HIS privacy is (was) very important to HIM
Re:20 years ago, Apple bought NeXT by pmelendez on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @05:45AM (#13228167)
Funny, that is the same guy that in his youth cold called a CEO asking for free samples and he got it.