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Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by jayd16 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @12:12PM (#13221731)
The pain is completely self imposed. Wired ports and wireless technology are not mutually exclusive. USB-C is great bit there's no reason to remove all other ports. Technology will get adopted. It doesn't have to be forced.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by ashark on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @12:18PM (#13221769)
IMO they should have given us one transition model before going all USBC. Leave one USBA, HDMI, sdcard slot (my wife and I use it all the time, and it is the pro after all, used by many in graphics arts, film, and photography). Downgrade power to USBC (yeah, losing magsafe or moving it to a dongle is a downgrade) if you must, replace the thunderbolts and other USBA with USBC.

That way I'd have a chance to actually pick up any USBC devices whatsoever before moving to a laptop that can only connect to USBC without dongles. 'Cuz right now I have zero, and so does my Mac-only office. Even the couple of USBC Android testing phones floating around come with a to-A USB cable, so I'd have to buy a new cable for them.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by addicted on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @01:23PM (#13222458)
The people who compared the USB-C move to Apple's past moves were completely ignoring that in the past Apple replaced the FLoppy drive with the CD rom, but still kept all the other ports around.

This time round Apple has replaced every port with a USB-C port, which means I don't need to transition only 1 interface. I need to transition all.

And the most painful part about this move is they are doing it to the product line that in the past was loved because it came with USB + FW400 + FW800 + Video + Magsafe. IOW, a design goal for the Pro line used to be easy compatibility so professionals could end up in any situation and have a great chance of getting their computers to work with their environment without any adapters.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by krallja on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @09:27PM (#13226345)
> Apple replaced the FLoppy drive with the CD rom, but still kept all the other ports around.

What? That's not even close to true. The iMac replaced all of Apple's then-standard ports with USB. ADB: gone. Serial: gone. SCSI: gone.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by adricnet on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @10:06AM (#13229632)
Yes, but that was consumer / education market gear first (iMac) as I recall.

More or less back on topic ... I bought a HP Probook for my on-the-road studies/work last cycle because I needed a portable that I could do _work_ with and repairability, matte screen, mouse buttons, VGA, HDMI, and whole lot of other things were much more important to me than width or mass or shiny. It came with Windows and it's well supported.

I would like to get another 17" macbook pro someday (mine is pretty old and 80% retired), and this move and the messaging around it suggests that Apple doesn't care to make one. It's no surprise, but it still stings a bit, and as noted else where it is breathtakingly clumsy for their remaining mac business (as is that press conference).