China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon

Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @12:22PM (#13168530)

An H1B doesn't have to reapply for a work visa every year, and they eventually get a green card, while green cards are extremely rare in China. Also, you don't have to re-register at the PSB in the states a few times a year, waiting in line just to get a little slip of paper.

It is easy to get a working visa in tech, that's for sure, and if you have a company that jumps through all the hoops for you, it can be relatively painless.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by snambi on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @12:23PM (#13168540)

I'm an indian immigrant, this is totally not true. There may be edge cases, but in general, cannot agree with this statement.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by serge2k on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @02:55PM (#13170297)

what? The american immigration system is pretty awful. H-1B to employer sponsored green card is a really lousy system.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by xiaoma on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:14PM (#13170511)

Try immigrating to China.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by jensvdh on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:33PM (#13170697)

I'm not familiar with China's system. But let's not pretend a lottery based system, where the only thing that decides whether you can stay in the country or not, is random number generation, like H1-B is great.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by wmil on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:45PM (#13172804)

China's system is basically just "No, you can't stay". As of 2010 exactly 1,448 living immigrants had managed to become citizens. In contrast, the US naturalizes 700,000 every year.

The country actually has more billionaires than non-Vietnamese refugees.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by lacampbell on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:56PM (#13172869)

Right. China is in the business of colonising other countries - not being colonised itself.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by duaneb on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @11:56AM (#13168274)

You mean how the child of an immigrant is President?

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by falsestprophet on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:42PM (#13173107)

You mean how the child of an immigrant is President?

The president's father was never an immigrant. An immigrant is someone who comes to life permanently in a new country. He was a foreign student with a wife in Kenya and eventually returned to Kenya with an American third wife upon the completion of his studies.

Several presidents have been a child of an immigrant: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by duaneb on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @09:45PM (#13181951)

Correct; my apologies.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by Jtsummers on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @12:08PM (#13168380)

US immigration goes beyond just the President's personal views and desires. The present situation is pretty difficult for many would-be immigrants, even those from middle class backgrounds in stable countries. If they lack a degree or their degree isn't recognized, they can't easily get a work visa (for permanent resident status, not temporary workers). They have to get married, go for the diversity visa program, or become a student (may be their second or third degree for some if they go this route).

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by duaneb on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @01:38PM (#13169332)

This is true. But compare it to other countries: even where immigration is more relaxed, the cultural acceptance of foreign culture is greater in the US than most places. The only place I might prefer to be as a foreigner would be Canada.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by cylinder on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @01:12PM (#13168990)

His father was not an immigrant, he was born in Queens. And the immigration laws are a much bigger obstacle now than they were even in the 80s.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by duaneb on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @01:34PM (#13169278)

I was referring to Obama Sr, who was born in Kenya.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by wmil on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:46PM (#13172815)

He was never an immigrant. He just came on a student visa, studied, then went back to Kenya.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by duaneb on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @11:03PM (#13173732)

My mistake, I didn't realize that meaning of immigrant. Nonetheless, I think my point stands, perhaps even stronger.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by jameshart on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @11:15PM (#13173795)

Weird correction.

Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, mother to Donald, was born on the Isle of Lewis in Scotland in 1912, emigrated to the US in 1930, married an American in 1936, naturalized 1942.

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Re:China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon by duaneb on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @09:44PM (#13181949)

Great find; I never would have realized this otherwise. Ironically this is more accurate than my statement about the current president!

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