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Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by mbrock on Sunday December 11, 2016 @07:58AM (#13150879)
Who said anything about "all men"?
Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by forgetsusername on Thursday December 15, 2016 @07:31AM (#13184114)
>Who said anything about "all men"?

So you're talking about "some men"? Who cares then. "Some men" do lots of things, most men do not.

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by Retra on Sunday December 11, 2016 @09:28AM (#13151187)
The problem is what that man does when you leave the public space, and he thinks you spent all that time with him in public because you want to get laid. Such a person need not even do anything malicious, just being confused or unsure of the situation and suitably bad at communicating is enough to cause behavior that is threatening.
Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by literallycancer on Sunday December 11, 2016 @09:50AM (#13151271)
Presumably you are using the app because you want to get laid, so what's the issue here? That people are too awkward to say "Turns out I don't really like you after all."?

If it is dangerous to reject someone, then there is something wrong with that person, not the app.

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by Retra on Sunday December 11, 2016 @10:30AM (#13151432)
I don't understand your questions. There's nothing "wrong" with the app; it's just a dating app. There's something wrong with dating, which means they're pushing a risky product from day 1.

And this looks pretty much exactly like every other failed dating app, as every other dating app does.

EDIT: I really have no relevant opinion on the app. My concern here is the assumption of "if you're in public, you're mostly safe." It's not an untrue statement, but it is an incomplete picture. It's like saying "this chain is strong because 95% of these links are hardened steel."

Dating has risks because nobody can guarantee safety through the whole chain of events. It doesn't matter if it's safe in public, because what people overwhelmingly want out of dates is the eventuality of not being in public, and coordinating when and where that should happen, if at all, is difficult, and not a problem any app solves. (Regardless of whether they can or should solve it.)

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by faitswulff on Sunday December 11, 2016 @08:55AM (#13151067)
I expected some pushback on that. I probably could have made the same arguments in the past. However, if you ask women, you'll find that thinking about these things is a common thread[0] - likely from the women in your life as well. At the very least, women in my life worry about accepting drinks from men, meeting them for the first time, and saying "no" to men in general. As they say, the "crazy ex-girlfriend" will key your car, but the crazy ex-boyfriend will murder you.

The reason it matters in this particular context is because, in general, women do not think men are safe and dating apps must address this. To specifically counter your arguments about being in a public place with someone, that still opens the doors to: personally invasive touches when no one is looking, invasion of privacy (at this point some contact has occurred), and a physical knowledge of where you are, not to mention being in public hasn't necessarily helped: The murder of Kitty Genovese[1] comes to mind, as does most women having experienced being followed on the streets by men[2] a situation which isn't necessarily helped by public protectors[3] and if you must hear some stories themselves, here are some stories from reddit[4].

So, to answer your question, it is "okay" to operate under such an assumption because, in general, women feel unsafe around men, especially in the context of a dating app. Now, you could make the argument that women are illogical, or you could acknowledge that ~50% of the population might have some reason to feel that way. I personally prefer the latter, but if my opinion doesn't make a difference to you, I would recommend inquiring of women yourself, in some form or another.

[0]: https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-biggest-%E2%80%9CIve-neve...

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

[2]: http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/2010/01/75-percent-of-wo...

[3]: http://www.revelist.com/viral/portland-woman-stalking-office...

[4]: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/3suj0m/ladies_wha...

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by forgetsusername on Thursday December 15, 2016 @07:36AM (#13184149)
>The reason it matters in this particular context is because, in general, women do not think men are safe and dating apps must address this.

If you're a woman and worried about that, maybe you shouldn't be randomly meeting men on the internet?

>As they say, the "crazy ex-girlfriend" will key your car, but the crazy ex-boyfriend will murder you.

Who says?

Do you stereotype other people in the same manner? Or just men?

>The murder of Kitty Genovese[1] comes to mind

You're going to use a brutal murder that occurred 50 years ago as an example of what women face today?

>here are some stories from reddit

Okay..now go read us some /r/MensRights stories.

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by literallycancer on Sunday December 11, 2016 @10:08AM (#13151341)
Women in the US were 0.27 times as likely to get killed compared to men.[1] By your logic, men should never feel safe around anyone.

1 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1635092

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by Retra on Sunday December 11, 2016 @10:32AM (#13151439)
Wrong data point. Look at assault, harassment, and rape.
Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by forgetsusername on Thursday December 15, 2016 @07:37AM (#13184157)
>Wrong data point. Look at assault, harassment, and rape.

The OP was about murder, so, no.

Re:Show HN: GameDate – Dating app linked with local events by Chris2048 on Sunday December 11, 2016 @06:33PM (#13154199)
That Kitty Genovese article comes with a retraction.