Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving

Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by icebraining on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:59AM (#13150087)

Is he? So if I'm poor, can I go to a store, take a copy of a Crytek game, and claim "well, I just failed to pay money I don't have" and not be accused of stealing?

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by mark_edward on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:07AM (#13150104)

Lots of people believe in special exceptions for people in positions of power and wealth, like employers. Some of these people get to make laws.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by manmal on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:11AM (#13150118)

Disagreeing with an opinion is not a reason to downvote on HN.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by detaro on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:15AM (#13150130)

as far as I know this (nearly 9 year old) post saying otherwise is still the official ruling on it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by DanBC on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:01PM (#13152847)

Not this one, where downvote to disagree is described as a bit of a problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347

Or this one, where pg suggests that people don't downvoting a grey post (I think people do downvote grey posts now, more than they used to.) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658683

this thread also has some comments about voting (and a bunch of other stuff, including ahem politics https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2403696)

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by detaro on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:17PM (#13152939)

wasn't aware of those, thanks.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by alexhayes on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:50AM (#13150216)

MANY people do essentially the same thing all the time. They call it torrenting...

Rather than say "well, I just failed to pay money I don't have" you can just say "oh no, it's cool, I'm just downloading it"

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by Dylan16807 on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:19PM (#13152963)

Torrenting is relevant if you copy someone's labor. Or otherwise receive value from their preexisting actions without them expending additional effort.

The issue at hand is making a contract for something/labor, using it up, and not paying. It's a totally different topic.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by coderdude on Sunday December 11, 2016 @06:40AM (#13150641)

Your error was to go against the 'gimme free stoofs' people. They outnumber us 1 million to 1.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by icebraining on Sunday December 11, 2016 @07:49AM (#13150850)

The only people here arguing for "free stuff" are those defending the Crytek execs, who got a bunch of free labor.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by coderdude on Sunday December 11, 2016 @10:43AM (#13151484)

If it comes to pass that Crytek cannot, and knowingly could not, pay them then that's when to bandwagon. Not before it's known. That's how it plays out on HN. Guilty before proven innocent.

If you believed everything you read here the world would be a very alien place.

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Re:Crytek has not paid wages, employees are leaving by icebraining on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:51PM (#13152780)

cperciva wrote "a company failing to pay money it doesn't have is not the same thing as stealing", and you wrote he was factually correct. How do you know if he's factually correct, if, as you admit, it's still not known if they knowingly stiffed the workers?

You're the one jumping to conclusions. All I said is that they got a bunch of free labour, which is true regardless of whether they knowingly did so or not.

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