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Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by alltakendamned on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:09AM (#13149977)
Forgive me as I'm quite ignorant when it comes to drug abuse.

What is it that tends to drive people to start using heroin initially ?

Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by jjawssd on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:11AM (#13149981)
Next step up from prescription painkiller abuse, when legal painkillers become too expensive.

"damn near 50% of the people I chilled with growing up got hooked on the oxy during the pill mill days....some got strait and quit...most of us just kept it moving until they got so expensive that we had to switch to H."

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-496626.html

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-712613.html

Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by rudedogg on Sunday December 11, 2016 @01:03PM (#13152191)
Also they've made painkillers harder to get a prescription for, so the supply isn't there and addicted people look for alternatives.

I really liked the full episode of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifbWtwlQkdE

Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by alltakendamned on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:55AM (#13150081)
Thanks for those links, very enlightening
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by bskdjx on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:13AM (#13149982)
Today a first taste can be doctor's prescription for pain. Pain killers are often potent, addictive, opioids. There is also some evidence that some pharmaceuticals mislead doctors about their potential for abuse.
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by btgeekboy on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:57AM (#13150085)
John Oliver did a segment on Opioids that's pretty informative. Have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pdPrQFjo2o

The quick answer though is that it starts with prescription painkillers that are highly addictive.

Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by unfunco on Sunday December 11, 2016 @01:50PM (#13152454)
I can answer, I had a breakup in February that I'm still not over, I've been in CBT which isn't working as it's supposed to, and now I would do just about anything to have some respite from thinking about her, initially it came from playing around with some psychedelics at an earlier age (social-group) to now, mostly being ketamine, and with the occasional (I've so far managed to keep it under control) escalation to H. I live alone, and it's all to feel disassociated.
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by marmaladedukes on Sunday December 11, 2016 @05:07PM (#13153648)
Hey. It's not easy, isolation doesn't make things any better. Alcoholics Anonymous saved my life, it gave me a place to be and it's free. I know it's not for everyone, but support groups really do help. There's also smartrecovery.
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by icpmacdo on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:17PM (#13152612)
Hope you can get past all of that soon friend.
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by jayajay on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:30AM (#13150021)
At first, it's fun to experiment. Then you realize how no one fucking understands you and no one understands each other. That's depressing, buddy. Life is depressing.

Welcome! Yeah -- and you ask why people abuse drugs?

And it's even more than that -- people tend to be wrapped up in their worlds. Mostly, people feel alone. I mean, the world expects you to be a certain way. Look at all of these people -- on the internet, walking on the street. They're all in the motions. That feels like jail, when you see repetition, over and over.

Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by douche on Sunday December 11, 2016 @07:13AM (#13150738)
I'm guessing despair is a big component. Most of the places around here in the Northeast where heroin is exploding you've got dead communities, with moribund economies, where there isn't much in the way of optimism for the future. Might as well get fucked up.
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by vixen99 on Sunday December 11, 2016 @08:19AM (#13150942)
Plenty of despairing for the non-drug users too. A report by UK government's Drug Strategy Unit leaked to the press concluded drug use was responsible for the great majority of crime, including 85% of shoplifting, 70-80% of burglaries and 54% of robberies and cost £16 billion a year in the UK". Possibly proportionate figures for the US.
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by Broken_Hippo on Sunday December 11, 2016 @06:15AM (#13150577)
For a portion, it is the same sorts of things that cause folks to use other drugs. Curiousity at first or looking for a way to not feel bad. People don't usually start with heroin - they go for 'tame' highs. Cigarettes, alcohol, pot. And just explore from there.

For a (probably much bigger) portion, this is the result of pain pill addiction. It got harder and harder to get the pills and they grew in cost, so some folks switched to heroin because the pull of addiction is so great.

Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by marmaladedukes on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:57PM (#13153585)
Re:Heroin deaths surpass gun homicides for the first time, C... by choko on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:43PM (#13152745)
Some people try it (and other drugs) out of curiosity and boredom. Then, once they experience how good opioids make you feel, it's hard to stop.