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Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by dbg31415 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @09:58AM (#13145893)
Costco - Best return policy on the planet. But anything confidently, return anything no questions asked. Solid support line too.

Fry's - Knowledgeable service for consumer goods and online price matching. Apple Stores are full of pretty idiots who love to make you wait.

Dell - Enterprise hardware, and support is great. Apple phone support is painful, if turning it on and off again doesn't help you are out of luck unless you have Apple Care and can wait a week for a replacement.

EDIT:

Buffalo - Great call line. People on the other end know their stuff.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by late2part on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:11AM (#13145954)
You have been to much different Fry's Electronics stores than I have (and I've been to at least 8).

Fry's Electronics sales people rarely know the product, inventory, or compatibility, and quite often make things up.

I love the store, the access, the inventory - but it's not a place I'd put on the list for knowledgeable service.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by dbg31415 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:13AM (#13145961)
I've only been to the Fry's in Austin. I've had nothing but great luck with those guys though. Sucks to hear it's not the same everywhere.
Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by tunap on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:43AM (#13146111)
Cannot recommend Costco enough for electronics. Back during the Nvidia solder fails they replaced a high-end, 2+yo HP laptop(Out of warranty) when even HP denied there was a problem. I was stunned, in a good way.

And as stated below, Fry's is a good place for fictitious advice. According to them, XP was discontinued long before MS extended sales of XP for netbooks.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by dbg31415 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:10AM (#13145947)
I really hate Apple Stores... wanted to go on a bit of a longer rant here...

I hate the physical stores, I hate the App Store.

1) Lost my power cord while traveling, so I thought I'd jump into the Apple Store and pick up a new one. Should be an in and out thing... took 1.5 hours of me just waiting around the store for them to sell me a power cord. This was in Sydney. Once I actually got to talk to someone, it still took 20 minutes. So painful. "Genius" is Apple for happy little idiot.

2) Tried to buy 8 laptops for a dev team. Bought them all online, went to pick them up... credit card cleared, no errors or messages on the website. Get to the store, "We're sorry, Sir. We can't give you more than 3 laptops per day." Uh? So you want me to come back once a day for 2 more days to pick up these laptops? "Yes Sir, that's our policy." It took a call to some regional corporate sales clown to get them to hand me 8 laptops the same day I paid for them.

3) Every try and roll out software to a team using the App Store as a source for any of that software? Is it the company Apple Account? Is it their Apple Account? Which account has the stupid software licenses bound to it, and how do I set it so I can use the company Apple Account to install the software, but not leave my master password for the company saved on their computer... I don't want to have to give them that password just so they can keep their system up-to-date... rather they just log in and expense software... nope, it's a cluster trying to keep it all updated once you have more than one account providing software. Apple does not care in the slightest about corporate users. I should have some sort of provisioning interface that lets me grant rights to use software licenses I own to their personal accounts... that's probably not pretty enough for Apple though.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by jsjohnst on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:58AM (#13146206)
1) I desperately want to call b/s on this, but guess that it's possible. Seriously, power cords are on the shelf in every Apple Store I've been too (over thirty, at this point, including a half dozen international stores). Using the Store app on your phone you can checkout without a human involved. Most don't know this I agree, but there is no way I'd wait that long if it were me. I'd be in someone's face in under a half an hour saying "either take my money or I'm walking out".

2) I've run into this before (with iPads rather than MBP), so I know you're likely factual here. The business sales person said if I'd ordered from him, wouldn't have been an issue, but consumer orders live by consumer rules. He did at least tell me that it was two per person, not two per order, so I called my friend who lived near Valley Faire Mall at the time and had him bring four of his kids. Yes, it was stupid, but myself, him, and each of the four kids walked out with two iPads each in our arms.

3) pro-tip: check out Apple VPP. Very easy to sign up for and trust me, it's everything you need and more to make this a smooth process to handle.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by cale250 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @02:38PM (#13147455)
Not all stores have anything but the most recent inventory on the shelves. My local one has the old style MagSafe 1 power adapter and iPad Air 2 leather cases, but they are in the back. Worse yet, when I asked about these things recently, an employee said "sorry, we don't have those anymore." I didn't believe him, so at that point I had to wait another 15 minutes for a manager to become available who knew where these things were.
Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by PhantomGremlin on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:22AM (#13150297)
iPad Air 2 leather cases, but they are in the back

I have to chime in "me too" here; it's hard to believe that Apple is this stupid, but they are. No iPad Air 2 cases in the front of the store!

Here's my story, not that it matters much but maybe when Apple eventually goes bust someone will chronicle the litany of stupid decisions they made along the way.

I bought an iPad Air 2 over Black Friday weekend, good price from an authorized seller. A few days later I received it.

I go to the Apple store to select a case. I can't find any. Some sales drone says the cases are in back, since they only have a "limited" amount of display space.

Directly in front of us are a bunch of pegs on the wall. Each peg is capable of holding quite a few cases. But each peg has exactly 1 iPad Pro grey case. There are six pegs next to each other, two rows of three. Each of the six pegs has exactly 1 iPad Pro grey case. Right next to these pegs are a bunch more, each with exactly 1 iPad Pro case, just a different color. Overall, literally dozens of pegs on the wall, each with exactly 1 iPad Pro case.

Yes, the display space is "limited", but they could get a wee bit more inventory out front if they didn't deliberately act like idiots about it. It must make sense to someone but not to me.

I walked out. I wasn't about to stand there while he rummaged around back for something to show me. I went to a local department store and got a decent case for a lot less than I would have paid Apple for one.

It would be understandable if the iPad Air 2 was discontinued. But as of 30 seconds ago I can still go to the Apple website and buy one. So, WTF???

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by jsjohnst on Sunday December 11, 2016 @01:59AM (#13149951)
Mind if I ask which store this is? Genuinely curious as even the smallest store I've been to had all types of power cables on the wall. Really wondering why your local store is so different.
Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by cale250 on Monday December 12, 2016 @08:19PM (#13163695)
Des Moines, Iowa, at the Jordan Creek mall. The MagSafe could have been temporarily out of stock on the shelf for all I knew, though. They've shuffled things around a few times and I don't visit often - around once a year to replace a frayed power cable.
Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by givinguflac on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:36AM (#13146081)
1.) Maybe that's a Sydney Store issue? Never experienced anything close to that myself.

2.) Yeah that's dumb. Maybe it's a stocking thing since it's Australia? Never heard of anything like that in the US.

3.) Almost everything on the mac store exists outside of it as well, but I agree it is somewhat designed more for consumers. You could use deployment tools if the source isn't App Store, or a 'family' account that shares purchases among users. Though I agree that's not ideal. Supposedly they're improving management with some new tools similar to how apps can be managed on iOS.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by dbg31415 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @01:07PM (#13146921)
Was only in the Sydney store that one time, it took 1.5 hours to get a power cord. The line to get service was running out of the store. This was a few years ago, they had tremendous demand since -- if I recall -- they were the only Apple Store on the continent at the time.

The max number of laptops was in Austin, the store in The Domain.

Just looked into the Volume Purchase Program as suggested in another post... interesting but doesn't help me 3 years ago when I had the problem. Glad they've made moves to fix it.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by jsjohnst on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:07AM (#13149968)
Apple VPP came out summer of 2011, so it existed 3 years ago.
Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by dbg31415 on Sunday December 11, 2016 @05:22PM (#13153738)
Ok, well then I just didn't know about it then. And for that matter, Apple Support didn't tell me about it when I called them asking for solutions to the issue years ago.

What I liked about HN was that it wasn't Reddit. You feel good because you can downvote me? Hooray, downvotes really add to the conversation.

Not much point in talking with someone who thinks I'm lying. And I don't give a shit about internet points, so keep downvoting me.

Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by jsjohnst on Monday December 12, 2016 @02:26AM (#13156296)
Whoever down voted you probably did so because of your attitude (just my guess, obviously I don't know for sure). I suggest reviewing the guidelines of HN!
Re:My Pixel has a manufacturing defect by kabdib on Saturday December 10, 2016 @07:32PM (#13148859)
Frys, hoo boy. When I return things I can usually count on one of:

- Bored, doesn't-give-a-damn drone takes the broken thing and tosses it in a cart. Done.

- Mid-level manager gives me a hard time, and I wind up having an argument and threatening to reverse charges on my credit card.

My favorite episode: I buy a computer, get it home, and it won't even POST. Try to return it. They say, "We can't take this back, it's broken and we can't put it back on the shelf." WTF?

Yeah, you've been to a different Fry's . . .