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Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by lacampbell on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:01PM (#13082933)
0000-0600 - sleep (roughly)

I must admit I am always a bit jealous of people like you who can function on 6 hours sleep every day. After 3 days of that I am wreck.

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by mradamh on Thursday December 01, 2016 @06:28PM (#13084605)
Me too. I only feel at my best if I'm consistently getting 8 hours. A few days of 7 hours and I start to feel overly tired. Turn that down to 6 hours and I turn into an awful person.

My wife hardly ever sleeps more that 6-6.5 hours so she basically gets 2 extra hours a day compared to me. This has been true for me as long as I can remember (36 year old male)

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by brazzledazzle on Friday December 02, 2016 @01:35AM (#13086585)
Is there any difference in your level of fitness? I need a lot of sleep as well.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by flour_power on Friday December 02, 2016 @12:27PM (#13090507)
The more physically active/fit you are the longer you have to sleep.

sources: http://hackerella.com/sleep-challenge/

https://www.fatiguescience.com/blog/infographic-why-athletes...

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by enraged_camel on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:55PM (#13083425)
You should start measuring the quality of your sleep using apps like Sleep Cycle. I used to be exactly the same way. Then I realized that the reason I was sleeping for 9-10 hours was because my sleep was "shallow" and kept getting interrupted. It all changed drastically after I optimized my sleeping environment: totally dark, 68 degrees year around, appropriate mattress type for my sleeping position, etc.

Now I can get by comfortably with 6-7 hours of sleep.

Apps can also wake you up at the right time, as opposed to during deep sleep. That makes it easier to wake up as well.

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by xorxornop on Friday December 02, 2016 @03:17AM (#13087003)
As an alternative to ear plugs, perhaps also consider noise _replacement_ instead (eg. vs. noise _elimination).

I use an app that plays various rain sounds. I have it linked to speakers via Bluetooth (and I have a 3.5mm headphone-jack-type extension audio cable that I've run to my bedside table as an option, if I'm feeling picky about the sound quality of my rain ).

It's very relaxing, and blocks most outdoor sounds. I live in NZ, and the houses here are usually pretty thin-walled and consequently offer almost no sound deadening. This mostly-fixes/avoids that.

Perhaps you don't like rain, and so different sounds might be appropriate... I don't like anything else really apart from maybe low volume white noise, but that's me... but yeah, regardless of which sounds you pick, the general approach is worth trying!

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by paulmd on Friday December 02, 2016 @12:19PM (#13090418)
I always just used a box fan, but the apps are a good idea.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by lacampbell on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:06PM (#13085379)
Yes, using ear plugs more consistently would likely help improve quality. Housing quality where I live (NZ) is abysmal, and you hear all outside noises very clearly. It's half between living in a well built house and living in a tent.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by rosstex on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:48PM (#13085050)
Would you recommend Sleep Cycle the most? Do they require the phone physically on your bed or nearby?
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by pbh101 on Thursday December 01, 2016 @08:48PM (#13085295)
After an update about a year ago, it only requires being nearby (nightstand works for me) and uses sound to do the sensing.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by rosstex on Friday December 02, 2016 @12:16AM (#13086232)
Cool, I'll give it a try tonight!
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by viewer5 on Friday December 02, 2016 @09:26AM (#13088726)
I'm fond of Sleep As Android
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by Jtsummers on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:13PM (#13083067)
I will admit, I am very lucky in that regard. Just comparing against the recommended amount of sleep, I get an extra 14 hours a week. And I can actually function quite well on less, but not sustained (and never deliberately try to reach that state, but bouts of insomnia have forced me to learn this).

I do tend to sleep in on the weekends though ("sleep" isn't quite right, more like lazily stay in bed until 0900 or so while drifting in and out).

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by sten on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:21PM (#13083142)
I do this. Almost exactly. Asleep at 11 pm, up at 5:30. Lazy on weekends.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by hoorayimhelping on Thursday December 01, 2016 @08:22PM (#13085202)
It's a double-edged sword. I go to sleep between 12 and 12:45 every night, and wake up almost exactly six hours later without an alarm. It's great when waking up for work, it's really irritating on the weekends that I want to sleep in on.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by tnecniv on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:34PM (#13083739)
You can get used to it. In college, I had a semester where I was taking 6 classes, half of them project heavy grad classes. I only pulled one all nighter (that was on me) that semester, but I was regularly getting 5-6h of sleep when it wasn't Friday or Saturday. After a few weeks, it wasn't that bad until spring break came around. I got used to getting 8h again, so I had to readapt back to 6h.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by mbrameld on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:39PM (#13083292)
The person was also exhausted every day, by their own admission. I feel pity, not jealousy.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by Jtsummers on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:45PM (#13083354)
I was exhausted mentally, not physically, from work. Which is why I've been able to maintain that and add in 2 hours (average) gym time each weeknight. Applying the same analysis to work allowed me to better manage those 8 hours a day as well, so my mental exhaustion from that almost entirely stopped.

Though I initially saw an increase in my time sleeping (to about 7 hours) when I started (and now, since I took a break out of laziness). After about 3-4 weeks, my body gets better conditioned to the level of effort and I go back to about 6 hours of sleep a night.

For context, my exercising is: 2x5k/week (~0.5 hour each), 2x1.5 hour BJJ class, 2x1 hour wrestling, 2x1 hour BJJ, 2x1.25 hour soccer games. So roughly 10.5 hours a week. Very physically exhausting to jump back into that full schedule, though I find the fatigue remarkably satisfying (knowing that it's been earned).

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by rm_-rf_slash on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:10PM (#13083028)
I used to make it on 6 hours a night, easily.

Then I started college and it went up to 8, for some reason.

Recently I stopped drinking. I'm back to 6.

Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by garrickvanburen on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:32PM (#13083238)
In my experience, every beer adds 1 hour of sleep.
Re:The Busy Person’s Lies by a-saleh on Friday December 02, 2016 @06:04AM (#13087674)
In my experience, this only happens to me is it is more than 2 beers, later than 10pm in the evening :)