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Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by modeless on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:40AM (#13077889)
I liked Pebble as a company because they knew how to make just the right engineering compromises to make their product work. The smartwatch everyone wants has a battery that lasts for weeks, a high contrast always-on color screen visible in daylight and total darkness, no bezel, and a round case only a few mm thick. That perfect watch is impossible to build, but Pebble found compromises that worked. They chose different compromises than those of Apple and Google, and IMHO better ones. The Pebble Time Round is a tiny little triumph of smart engineering compared with any other product on the market, including the Apple Watch.

In particular it's incredible what the Pebble firmware team was able to accomplish. They built a bespoke OS that's extremely reliable (certainly more reliable than Android Wear), with an app SDK and store, plus a well thought out user interface with a striking visual design and even fun little animated flourishes, despite running in a fraction of the power budget of Apple or Android smartwatches. How many companies could have done that? Fitbit is getting a bargain, if that team is still intact.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by rockostrich on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:19AM (#13079444)
I think Pebble benefitted a ton from being the first company in the space. There were definitely a ton of hiccups with the original Pebble watch. There was barely a store and when the store did come into being it was buggy as hell. The hardware design decisions have always been pretty great though. Even today, I'd probably take the original Pebble over an Apple watch or anything from Android wear for practicality.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by ohsnapman on Thursday December 01, 2016 @01:45PM (#13082170)
I made the mistakes of backing a number of smartwatches on Kickstarter and IndieGoGo. The Pebble, for its faults, was still the most stable, polished item out of all the crowdfunded items I've ever back.

Separate note: I don't crowdfund anything anymore. Learned my lesson.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by fudged71 on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:41PM (#13082727)
This comment perfectly describes Fitbit as well. They were able to take a huge chunk of market share by being the first mover. And they had their own issues with rashes etc.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by kobeya on Thursday December 01, 2016 @05:39AM (#13078522)
> How many companies could have done that? Fitbit is getting a bargain, if that team is still intact.

There's been an exodus from Pebble for months now. Our team already picked up a few competent people. :( Sad because I really like Pebble's products.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by bambax on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:33AM (#13078256)
> That perfect watch is impossible to build

Do not compare to the Apple watch; have you looked at Garmin's Fenix 3? It has an always-on screen, a compass that works EVERYWHERE including indoors, on airplanes, in underground car parks, etc., a super-accurate GPS, and all the other functions you would need. Its battery lasts over a week when not using GPS, or 24hrs with GPS.

It doesn't need a phone to operate, it's very sturdy and what's more, it's round (square watches are ugly, how do makers of other "smart" watches not see that???)

It's a bit thick but not too heavy. I've had it for a year and couldn't live without it.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by nickthemagicman on Thursday December 01, 2016 @11:16AM (#13080460)
Too bad it looks like you literally have a computer mounted to your wrist.

http://www.wareable.com/media/images/2015/04/uber-1428589196...

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by bambax on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:39PM (#13081446)
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by nickthemagicman on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:57PM (#13081661)
Lol nope.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by mercer on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:12PM (#13081106)
Good lord, that's hideous! I'd go for the Apple Watch over that, even though I also prefer round watch faces.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by ClassyJacket on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:03AM (#13078814)
The page for that watch hasn't been updated since 2011. I wouldn't put much faith in it.

I disagree about the style. A sleek square smartwatch is a lot less ugly than that bulky, messy Garmin. There's no reason to make it round, it's not analogue, it's digital, it displays text and images. Round displays just cut off text and anything that scrolls. Square is far more functional.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by bambax on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:43AM (#13078972)
What page? I didn't point to any page. The Fenix 3 came out in March 2015 so I'm not sure what you're saying.

Regarding square vs round, if you look at the high-end watch market it's a ratio of maybe 1-10 in favor of the round watch. Why the makers of smart watches thought they could ignore this, I don't know.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by lm2s on Thursday December 01, 2016 @05:08AM (#13078410)
In regard to the compass aspect, why would the compass work mostly everywhere? Indoor is not a problem for the earth magnetic field, nor is a airplane.. The GPS not working everywhere (specially indoors) makes sense: it can't receive the satellites signals. But a compass is made with a magnetometer which works indoors and in airplanes, etc. Only problems will be in the poles and near objects producing strong magnetic fields..
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by bambax on Thursday December 01, 2016 @05:36AM (#13078513)
Yeah I though about that when writing it. I don't know.

What I do know is I used to wear a Tissot T-Touch which has a compass, and it doesn't work everywhere. Not in underground car parks, and certainly not on airplanes.

Maybe it's specific to the Tissot, I'm not sure.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by cmdrfred on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:48AM (#13078995)
Maybe they are using GPS as a compass?
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by FireBeyond on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:01PM (#13082335)
This. Many mobile, or even vehicle (GPS) compasses are not magnetic at all, but are doing point to point math on your GPS coordinates to "determine" your compass heading.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by pge on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:52AM (#13079018)
A compass is influenced by anything that disturbs the local magnetic field: magnets, metal objects, electrical currents, etc.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by robotresearcher on Thursday December 01, 2016 @01:42PM (#13082139)
> and near objects producing strong magnetic fields.

Or any ferrous material that distorts magnetic fields locally, such as steel beams, rebar in concrete, electric cables, etc. You can map an office building by measuring the local magnetic field distortion.

Compass everywhere sounds easy until you try it.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by plasticchris on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:41PM (#13081471)
The magnetometer is always recalibrating itself, so changes to the local magnetic field can be cancelled out.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by tgb on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:05PM (#13082380)
How? Sensor fusion with a gyroscope will help transient problems, like walking past some iron rebar, but would have to drift back to the magnetometer's reading if in a long-term situation. Using the GPS as a compass is pretty sketchy, too, AFAIK. Is there some smarter trick?
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by modeless on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:48AM (#13078326)
That thing is a brick compared to a Pebble Time Round and over twice the price. I don't need a GPS or compass in my watch, so it's not for me.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by wpietri on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:47AM (#13078320)
Could you say more about your use cases?

For me, the point of a smartwatch is that it serves as a secondary interface to my phone. I like that my phone stays in my pocket more, because then I'm less likely to be rude because of my phone, or to have to drag it out just to see what that notification was.

I've owned and used an earlier Garmin watch for running and I loved it, but eventually stopped using it because I just didn't need to maintain another separate device. But clearly you're up to something else than me.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by bambax on Thursday December 01, 2016 @05:43AM (#13078542)
Well, glancing at your watch when you receive a notification is even ruder, because then the other party thinks you're bored! ;-)

I really like having a compass, I'm not sure why but when I get lost in a town (at night) I usually can find my way back if I know where North is. Some people always know where North is -- not me, but I usually can figure out where everything else is, relative to the North.

I sometimes take walks in the woods with my kids and like to track where we've been. You can do this with a phone but then you have to have the proper app, launch it, etc. I don't like to use my phone for anything else but calls (I'm old). With the Fenix it's just the push of a button.

You can use GPS also to record where your car is, and it will direct you back to it; this is useful everywhere.

Also, as a photographer, if you record your tracks when shooting you can later import GPS data to photographs (some cameras have GPS but not all, it doesn't work too well and it drains the battery).

It remembers my sleeping patterns, which is completely useless but nice to look at, in a narcissistic kind of way.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by fragmede on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:48AM (#13080150)
Science is finding that sleep, and sleep patterns are very important to mental health and well-being. If you have trouble regulating your sleep, there's a bit more to the concept than "completely useless" and "narcissistic".
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by mi100hael on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:49AM (#13080165)
The primary benefit is for people who do a lot of distance-based athletics. I bought one recently because in addition to all the usual smart-phone/fitbit features, it works so well as a stand-alone athletic device. Now I can go running with just the watch for GPS+HR and a lightweight iPod shuffle clipped to my waistband for music. No more gigantic phone bouncing around in an armband. Plus the battery life is insanely good so you can easily track hours-long activities with plenty of juice to spare. It also can be used to track swimming and other water sports that you'd normally avoid using your phone for at all. I do some hunting, so I like that I can set a waypoint when I park and use the track-back feature in case I get turned around in the woods.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by karlding on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:47AM (#13080136)
Unless they've recently made changes, their OS firmware is actually built on top of FreeRTOS, with a bunch of backported features and memory optimizations for the lower-end and first-generation devices.

I think the most impressive engineering feat is what they're able to accomplish in their software, given their hardware limitations.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by rkangel on Thursday December 01, 2016 @11:01AM (#13080270)
FreeRTOS (while being absolutely fantastic) is 'just' a series of low level primitives allowing task scheduling and so forth.

The Pebble platform is a much richer 'operating system' for pebble apps.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by tokenizerrr on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:16AM (#13078201)
> In particular it's incredible what the Pebble firmware team was able to accomplish. They built a bespoke OS that's extremely reliable

That doesn't match my experience at all. A few months ago I was completely ready to jump on the smartwatch bandwagon so got a pebble. First of all, and somewhat unrelated, but the watch band itched and was uncomfortable and seemed to be low quality. More importantly, the Pebble randomly disconnected from my Android phone multiple times a day causing notifications not to show up. The watch would also crash occasionally, resetting to its homescreen and forgetting what I was doing.

I am now a happy Moto 360 user (gen 2).

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by modeless on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:38AM (#13078276)
Android Wear may have improved, but in my year or so of wearing a Moto 360 v1 I experienced such various bugs as showing the wrong time on the watch face (yes!), boot loops which were completely unrecoverable without the use of the charging dock, missing notifications due to silly Android permission issues, failure to turn the screen on for notifications, "Unfortunately, Android Wear has stopped", and plenty of bluetooth disconnects. All that among various hardware issues such as general slow performance, touchscreen unreliability that requires you to stare at the watch to confirm the receipt of each swipe, and a heart rate sensor that might as well be replaced with a random number generator.

Switching to Pebble Time Round after that was a revelation.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by Klathmon on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:12AM (#13079401)
I know it probably doesn't matter to you now, but the M360v1 is widely regarded as one of the worst android wear watches.

It was built on a platform that the company making it left the business partially through it's development. It was made with a different screen type (and processor arch IIRC) than other watches, it was significantly slower than other watches, and has had some QC issues where batteries at this point are beginning to swell up and make the watch unusable (it seems to be hitting everyone, the only factor is how long it'll take).

I loved my v1 like how I loved my first shitty car, and that might just be a mix of stockholm syndrome and nostalgia (not sure if that's the right word there...), but I currently have a fossil founder that my wife got me as a gift and it clearly improves on the M360v1 in just about every way.

Obviously you do you, but if you ever end up wanting to take another look at the landscape, just know that your experience with android wear was probably the worse you could have had, and that things are all around much better now.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by tokenizerrr on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:53AM (#13078345)
I actually have the 2nd generation Moto 360, and have not experienced any of those issues at all. The only thing I could complain about is how the watch face resets when the watch runs out of power. Not a big deal, the time is still shown correctly, and to set the correct watch face I'd just have to open the Wear app again and tap it. But still annoying.

The heart rate sensor also seems consistent at least, though I have nothing to compare it with.

Anyway, funny to see how these things go and how our experiences are basically opposites.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by nunez on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:39AM (#13079583)
Android phones seem to have issues with Bluetooth LE connections especially when other non-LE Bluetooth devices are connected to it. Listening to music on my Bluetooth headphones was impossible when my Pebble Time Round was paired with my old Galaxy S7 Edge or my Galaxy S6 Edge. Audio quality would degrade significantly.

Disabling LE on my Pebble worked (sort of) at the obvious expense of higher battery consumption.

This doesn't seem to be the case on the iPhones I've had, though my Pebble is much less useful on iOS than it is on Android.

Every smartwatch at the moment has compromises.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by jazoom on Thursday December 01, 2016 @05:35AM (#13078508)
> > so got a peddle.

Well there's your problem. That's the cheap knockoff brand.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by wpietri on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:49AM (#13078328)
Which Pebble did you have? I had an original Kickstarter Pebble for years, and eventually replaced it with a Pebble Steel. It's been quite reliable for me. (I have had the "mystery disconnection" issue, but not as often as you, and have had it with other Bluetooth devices as well, so I didn't think it was Pebble-specific.)
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by tokenizerrr on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:51AM (#13078339)
The Pebble Time Round. I should note the random disconnects never happen for regular headphones or the Moto 360
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by on_and_off on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:07AM (#13077990)
> (certainly more reliable than Android Wear)

weird. I stopped using AndroidWear, but only because I have no interest in wearables, the OS itself has worked like a charm for me.

> if that team is still intact

from what I understand, employees have been leaving from quite some time since pebble has been in the red for a while.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by ClassyJacket on Thursday December 01, 2016 @06:55AM (#13078780)
I don't know why anyone cares about week long battery life. It would give me literally no advantage. I take my watch off when I go to sleep, so I simply put the charger on the table near my bed, and that's where I put it. It's no more effort to charge it than to not charge it.

I can understand 2 days since you might stay at your girlfriend's house or something, but mine already can do 2 days anyway.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by 3poundkilograms on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:19AM (#13078876)
As a Pebble user, I sleep with my watch on as it wakes me up in a much gentler way than any audio alarm does.

However, having a week long charge is also about more than just being able to avoid charging it at night. It also means that the remaining battery capacity (wear, age) will matter less. Is your battery dying, with only 50% of the design capacity left? Who cares, the watch still lasts for days. Not only that - the slow discharge also means that the battery will take ages to even experience reduced capacity.

The Apple Watch, on the other hand, sprints through the battery charges, and will both be completely intolerant to reduced battery capacity and reach reduced battery capacity faster.

... So yeah. It matters.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by esMazer on Thursday December 01, 2016 @11:27AM (#13080582)
I also sleep with my watch for alarm and the sleep tracking!
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by sametmax on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:35AM (#13078931)
Uses case:

- you are often in different places from night to nigh (have a lot of friends, a scattered familly, a job on the move, etc).

- you have no brain and forget often to charge your stuff

- you are fed up (or too lazy, or both) to have a 6th stuff to put on your night stand every freaking day

- you want it to be still usable after the battery wears off, and not just half a day like most smart phones after 2 years

- you have a busy party night life

- you work night shifts, or several days in a row without going back home

- you want to put you watch in a drawer, forget about it, and get it back 2 days later, still usable.

You can manage all that with a little preparation, but the point is, you should not have to.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by fragmede on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:39AM (#13080049)
Can you admit there might be other use cases than yours?

I have a Fitbit and one of the biggest reasons for me is its sleep tracking, which totally doesn't work if, um, I take it off to sleep. As a result I usually end up charging mine while I'm showering.

Unfortunately, if I forget to do that when I hop into the shower in the morning (which easily happens when I haven't had enough sleep and pre-coffee), I very much appreciate that my Fitbit's battery lasts more than a single day.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by tolien on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:11AM (#13078848)
> battery life. It would give me literally no advantage. I take my watch off when I go to sleep

Can't do that if you're using the watch for sleep tracking.

I've got into the habit of putting mine (an Apple Watch Series 2) on charge when I get up and leaving it there till I'm about to leave.

Other than the odd top-up (if I've been using the Workout app and thus the heart rate sensor), no problems. More battery life would be good though - if it used to be worse with the original AW, it's not hard to see how that would be a problem.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by crb on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:12AM (#13078854)
One of the great functions of a smart watch (or other fitness wearable) is sleep tracking. If you have to take it off overnight, you can't do that.

I charge my Pebble once a week. Before that, wearing a bog-standard digital watch, I took it off ~never.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by brlewis on Thursday December 01, 2016 @07:09AM (#13078841)
I don't know for smartwatches in general, but for Fitbit people like to track their sleep and also not leave steps uncounted, so there's really no good time to recharge.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by cmiles74 on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:51AM (#13079662)
Keep in mind that overall battery life will decline over time. I had a Moto 360 and after two years it could barely make it six hours on a charge. Even if my Pebble's battery life declines by 50% over the same two years, that's still 3.5 days on a charge!
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by TeMPOraL on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:37AM (#13079566)
> I take my watch off when I go to sleep

This is where you differ from many (probably most?) watch wearers.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by abritinthebay on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:38AM (#13080038)
I would say the inverse. The only people I know that leave a "watch" on are sleep trackers.

Which is a tiny tiny niche

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by mercer on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:15PM (#13081149)
Really? That's surprising. Back when I wore a watch (over ten years ago), I only took it off for showers. Part of the appeal was being able to leave it on at all times and not have 'yet another device that needs special instructions before sleep'.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by abritinthebay on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:13PM (#13082450)
Yup, even the people who are "watch people" (ie - they think nothing of collecting expensive swiss hand-made ones) are the same.

shrug

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by takeda on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:45PM (#13083825)
You're ignoring that there are other watches besides smart watches.

My old non-smart watch had battery that lasted 2 years, and generally I never took it of for sleeping.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by abritinthebay on Friday December 02, 2016 @10:39AM (#13089429)
Nope, I'm including that. It's anecdotal obviously but I've only known one person - ever - who did that with a regular watch.

Was kind of gross tbh.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by takeda on Saturday December 03, 2016 @06:56PM (#13098081)
That's another strong point of Pebble, I can wash it :)
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by muratsu on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:19AM (#13079865)
I think people of a certain age might prefer taking their watches off when they go to sleep because that's how it was supposed to be. Some watches are also heavy.. You can damage the watch if you wear it at night or accidentally wake your significant other.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by gnicholas on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:19PM (#13081200)
How exactly does one damage a watch while wearing it in bed? Also not sure how wearing a Pebble would wake a spouse/SO. A heavy gold watch might, but Pebbles are very light and low-profile. And the fact that the alarm vibrates to wake you instead of beeping means you'll not wake anyone else up when your alarm goes off.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by TeMPOraL on Thursday December 01, 2016 @01:46PM (#13082184)
Exactly.

I have a Pebble. My SO also has a Pebble. We can sleep together just fine, without taking them off.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by this-dang-guy on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:40AM (#13079593)
Well there you go. It's not a decider for you. But for me, I camp, hunt, hike, fish, and travel constantly.

I spend more often than not 3-4 days away from power in a given week.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by takeda on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:39PM (#13083781)
"I don't need it therefore no one else needs it"

I personally like watch that is low maintenance, I don't want to worry about having it charged. As others mentioned you can use watch to wake you up. I also use my pebble to track my sleep.

Another thing that is often ignored is that if battery doesn't need to be frequently charged it will also last longer (battery life is measured in charging cycles).

Sadly this might be the reason why Pebble has issues, their watch is quite good, so when they released second version of Pebble Time, I decided not to buy it because I was still happy with mine that I got 1.5 years ago.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by jeromeof on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:09AM (#13079792)
Well I use the Sleep tracking feature which I find very interesting (though probably slightly inaccurate).

I find that the only time I don't wear my Pebble Time is when I am having a shower and in those 10-15 minutes I can fully top up the charge on the PT, which I find is a killer feature. Basically, its more/less constantly charged, I wish other Watches (Android, Apple) would implement 'fast charging' to replicate this feature, as I hate having to think about charging any device.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by rjain15 on Thursday December 01, 2016 @11:58AM (#13080926)
I would vote for a Pebble or any smart watch which can charge with Body heat?
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by this-dang-guy on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:39AM (#13079578)
I agree. I backed pebble each time on kickstarter, and bought some of them for friends, too.

They are by far and away my favorite smartwatch. The others have just no appeal to me at all.

Fitbit, however, makes awful devices, IMO. I really hope they don't kill the Pebble magic.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by mercer on Thursday December 01, 2016 @12:24PM (#13081272)
I know almost nothing about Fitbit, but for the most part their image is positive. Could you elaborate on what's wrong with Fitbit devices?
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by larcher on Thursday December 01, 2016 @01:27PM (#13081954)
I've been pretty happy with the devices, when they work. But they don't seem built to last. Of the 6 Fitbits I've had in the last 5 years (the original, 2 Fitbit Ultras, 3 Fitbit Zips), only one of them didn't fall apart or otherwise stop working .. and that one I lost. The Zip in particular seems to have an issue with the battery cover, where it wears out and becomes too loose and the device won't stay powered on.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by this-dang-guy on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:27PM (#13082592)
Exactly. Build quality, reliability, etc. Very cheaply made in my experience.
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by camillomiller on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:57AM (#13077951)
Indeed, 40M is astounding
Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by argonaut on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:22AM (#13078225)
"Our source said that Fitbit is now paying between $34 and $40 million for the company and is 'barely covering their debts.'"

After paying debt and preferred shareholders, I won't be surprised if the founders and employees see absolutely nothing (as in, absolutely $0), although employees will probably receive retention payouts.

Re:Fitbit is reportedly buying Pebble for around $40M by camillomiller on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:06PM (#13083503)
Not selling to Citizen for 750M in 2015 was a hell of a mistake. I really would to be behind the rationale to say no to a deal like that, when the market was clearly seized by Apple and way richer competitors...