Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by apgwoz on Thursday March 06, 2008 @07:01AM
(#130487)
12" PowerBook with Carbon Emacs 22 (if you're not using Emacs 22, you definitely should be).
It's as portable as I can get without getting cramps from typing. I am looking to check out the Lenovo U110 when it drops though, in which case I'll run Debian 4.0 with Xmonad.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by jsmcgd on Thursday March 06, 2008 @07:50AM
(#130506)
I was using Emacs 21 but on your advice I installed 22. OMG! I was developing cataracts with 21, it was just so damn ugly. GTK is like corrective eye surgery. Cheers mate.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by Hexstream on Thursday March 06, 2008 @05:37AM
(#130476)
My preferable development environment would be an IDE I built myself, perfectly tailored to the peculiars of MY workflow. It would also need to feature easy extensibility to make it affordable to extend it, sometimes on a per-project basis. I'd eventually end up working on optimizing my productivity in a quite direct manner, by analysing what the bottlenecks (anything that hampers Flow) are in my different projects and devising solutions.
When you work in Lisp by making DSL's and generally problem-specific extensions, I think the next logical step is to extend the IDE to support it directly (especially if you use the extension in many projects). If for example you make a CSS DSL, it would be great to have full property completion support, syntax highlighting and the other usual suspects.
Two areas I expect to work on a lot is 1. making the operations of my IDE more "semantic" (as in, adapted to what I want to do. If it's easy to think about, it should be easy and quick to carry it out) and 2. Making a system of views that would let me bypass the traditional file-based view of a project. If you program in a mostly functional way, most of the time the load order and segregation into files is much less important than other possible views of the project.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by brianloveswords on Thursday March 06, 2008 @03:04AM
(#130434)
Macbook Pro + Emacs (aquamacs) = Love.
Anyone else find that they are absolutely bound to emacs and no matter what else you try to use, you find yourself, like a turtle returning to the beach where it was born, going back to emacs?
P.S. I have nothing against vi, but you know, turtles and nature and all of that.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by phaedrus on Friday March 07, 2008 @01:49AM
(#131099)
My evolution (doing C++ development on Linux):
1. First I tried Eclipse. And tried it again, and again. I couldn't figure out how to do the simplest darn things in Eclipse, hated the interface, and it just seemed too complicated to me.
2. Switched to vim + commandline. Invoking gcc directly.
3. Tried emacs - decided I felt the same way about it is I did about Eclipse. Too complicated and I can't figure out simple things.
4. Switched to GEdit + makefiles; still doing a lot on the command line.
5. Looked for a good visual IDE; discovered Anjuta. Was really impressed and happy for about 2 hours. After 2 days and Anjuta crashed for the 1000th time in a row, I wanted to strangle the programmers who wrote Anjuta.
6. Discovered KDevelop. KDevelop is a pleasure to use. Feature complete, very productive, no problems. Got to first milestone in project faster than expected, primarily because KDevelop was so good to work in.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by eelinow on Thursday March 06, 2008 @08:41AM
(#130534)
MacBook Pro running OS X 10.5.2, Emacs, Python primarily, with occasional outbursts of TextMate, Lisp, Perl, Ruby and Logo (for teaching mathematical concepts to my son.)
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by iowahansen on Thursday March 06, 2008 @04:13PM
(#130833)
* 15" Macbook Pro, 4GB, 10.4.8 (waiting for 10.5.3 before upgrading).
* Quicksilver (one of the big reasons I switched to Mac in the first place)
* IntelliJ IDEA for Java backend stuff (imho, the best code virtuoso tool out there bar none; once you get used to leveraging all the functionality, you will feel crippled in any other environment).
* iTerm for terminal needs
* Journler (perfect for note taking and keeping interesting reference web pages locally searchable)
* VMware Fusion for Windows development stuff
* NetNewsWire to consume my daily news fix efficiently
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by apgwoz on Thursday March 06, 2008 @04:46PM
(#130861)
Why the wait til 10.5.3?
I use Quicksilver on my Powerbook (running Tiger), but Spotlight is fast enough on the Intel iMac, running Leopard, I use at work that I removed Quicksilver from the system completely.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by iowahansen on Thursday March 06, 2008 @09:47PM
(#131010)
I used to be bleeding edge, always upgrading to the latest version of anything that came out, but as a consequence ran into occasions where things broke that were working perfectly before (and ended up wasting time getting things back to normal again).
My guess is that with 10.5.3 the majority of the rough spots have been smoothed out and all my favorite applications had time to make the Leopard transition.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by suboptimal on Thursday March 06, 2008 @08:08AM
(#130514)
Darren, you a CodeIgniter guy? If you haven't already, I highly recommend getting started with the new ASP.NET MVC framework--it almost makes working with .NET in the day job tolerable (yes, "almost").
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by hollerith on Thursday March 06, 2008 @04:07PM
(#130824)
Note: all the software I have developed so far has been for personal use.
I use a desktop computer with a Microsoft Natural keyboard, Arch Linux, Emacs, Emacs Lisp, the shell rc.
The elements I am most pleased with are the keyboard and the shell rc. I am also pretty happy with Emacs Lisp, especially its manual and commands like C-h c C-h w and C-h f. Too many administration hassles with Arch Linux though. To reduce hassles, I would buy OS X if I were not very low income.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by watmough on Thursday March 06, 2008 @08:38AM
(#130532)
NetBeans (Sometimes TextMate), Mac OS X on a MacBook Pro, with all code in a Subversion repository.
I started using TextMate, but I find a bunch of things like how it jacks up indenting when pasting, and flashes when matching tabs. NetBeans handles both these things much more nicely.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by jcromartie on Thursday March 06, 2008 @11:31AM
(#130624)
OS X, laptop, Textmate, and Emacs.
Textmate is just more approachable when it comes to extending the editor, though, so I usually use it for odds and ends over Emacs. Emacs is great for well structured projects in well supported languages.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by moog on Thursday March 06, 2008 @07:24AM
(#130493)
Same here, however I've started treating my laptop as a 'thin client'. All my files are hosted on my iMac, which I access over Wi-Fi when at home, or via iDisk/Back to My Mac when elsewhere.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by bkrausz on Thursday March 06, 2008 @08:43AM
(#130535)
Windows (Office 2007 won me over temporarily from *nix) and nano over SSH. I get yelled at almost daily to switch to emacs. I'm used to it though, I use Word 2007 instead of LaTeX and will never hear the end of it.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by mk on Thursday March 06, 2008 @12:18PM
(#130658)
At the day job: Ubuntu with Gnome, vim.
At home working on startup/contract work:
Macbook running OS X 10.5.whatever the latest, vim, sometimes emacs or aquamacs if I'm messing around with scheme.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by jawngee on Thursday March 06, 2008 @06:24PM
(#130924)
Eclipse (PDT/Flex Builder) + Text Mate + Aqua Data Studio + PostgresqlMaestro + nano (eat it vi! shove your c-h-ch-x-f-u-ch-k-sh-i-t emacs!) + iTerm + SubEthaEdit (for pair programming)
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by urlwolf on Thursday March 06, 2008 @08:15PM
(#130967)
Netbeans for RoR, gvim for everything else (perl, R, autohotkey, actionscript, C). Mercurial. 1920 x 1200 laptop in portrait position with an external IBM keyboard.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by ericb on Thursday March 06, 2008 @11:00AM
(#130603)
Mac Book Pro (15) with key mappings for home and end "fixed" with a 27.5 inch hanns g monitor (good, cheap and big). Netbeans b/c debugging can be handy.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by tzury on Thursday March 06, 2008 @02:54PM
(#130779)
here is mine:
Ubuntu, Scite, nano, ssh, LightTPD, Python, gcc, gcl and Firebug.
Virtual Box with FreeBSD and Windows Server 2003, Windows XP SP2 (for pre deployment testing)
Thank you all for sharing.
Re:Ask YC: What is your preferable development environment?
by ropiku on Thursday March 06, 2008 @11:26AM
(#130621)
+1. Ubuntu 7.10, NetBeans 6 (Ruby), Git on my 14" laptop.
Very rarely using Eclipse (for Java). How is it for Python ? I am thinking about learning Python and Django.
It's as portable as I can get without getting cramps from typing. I am looking to check out the Lenovo U110 when it drops though, in which case I'll run Debian 4.0 with Xmonad.
When you work in Lisp by making DSL's and generally problem-specific extensions, I think the next logical step is to extend the IDE to support it directly (especially if you use the extension in many projects). If for example you make a CSS DSL, it would be great to have full property completion support, syntax highlighting and the other usual suspects.
Two areas I expect to work on a lot is 1. making the operations of my IDE more "semantic" (as in, adapted to what I want to do. If it's easy to think about, it should be easy and quick to carry it out) and 2. Making a system of views that would let me bypass the traditional file-based view of a project. If you program in a mostly functional way, most of the time the load order and segregation into files is much less important than other possible views of the project.
Anyone else find that they are absolutely bound to emacs and no matter what else you try to use, you find yourself, like a turtle returning to the beach where it was born, going back to emacs?
P.S. I have nothing against vi, but you know, turtles and nature and all of that.
1. First I tried Eclipse. And tried it again, and again. I couldn't figure out how to do the simplest darn things in Eclipse, hated the interface, and it just seemed too complicated to me.
2. Switched to vim + commandline. Invoking gcc directly.
3. Tried emacs - decided I felt the same way about it is I did about Eclipse. Too complicated and I can't figure out simple things.
4. Switched to GEdit + makefiles; still doing a lot on the command line.
5. Looked for a good visual IDE; discovered Anjuta. Was really impressed and happy for about 2 hours. After 2 days and Anjuta crashed for the 1000th time in a row, I wanted to strangle the programmers who wrote Anjuta.
6. Discovered KDevelop. KDevelop is a pleasure to use. Feature complete, very productive, no problems. Got to first milestone in project faster than expected, primarily because KDevelop was so good to work in.
my mini and desktop are far more powerful than my 450mhz 128mb fujitsu laptop; i might get an eeepc tho, only iff openbsd can run all the hardwares
my iBookG4 broke last year, it's weird but i didn't miss her that much
I use Quicksilver on my Powerbook (running Tiger), but Spotlight is fast enough on the Intel iMac, running Leopard, I use at work that I removed Quicksilver from the system completely.
My guess is that with 10.5.3 the majority of the rough spots have been smoothed out and all my favorite applications had time to make the Leopard transition.
php coda/code igniter on mas osx(using mamp)
I'll give it a go again.
Don't use lisp(s) enough to enjoy Emacs anymore.
I use a desktop computer with a Microsoft Natural keyboard, Arch Linux, Emacs, Emacs Lisp, the shell rc.
The elements I am most pleased with are the keyboard and the shell rc. I am also pretty happy with Emacs Lisp, especially its manual and commands like C-h c C-h w and C-h f. Too many administration hassles with Arch Linux though. To reduce hassles, I would buy OS X if I were not very low income.
Normal gnu setup ...
- ubuntu64, gnome, vim, bash, xterm, & git
- various langs - python, perl, Js, sql, c & basic LAMP stack.
- browser with firebug, dom inspector, html validator, js debugger, noscript
- commodity desktop hardware + 22" + good speakers.
I started using TextMate, but I find a bunch of things like how it jacks up indenting when pasting, and flashes when matching tabs. NetBeans handles both these things much more nicely.
Textmate is just more approachable when it comes to extending the editor, though, so I usually use it for odds and ends over Emacs. Emacs is great for well structured projects in well supported languages.
Just for the record though, I use linux with Gnome, Ubuntu 7.10.
Your dev environment matters less than having two or more monitors in my opinion, though.
For desktop app work: netbeans, java (!) either winxp or fedora 8
For mathematical work: Mathematica + win xp
For fooling around learning new stuff: fedora 8 + python
At home working on startup/contract work: Macbook running OS X 10.5.whatever the latest, vim, sometimes emacs or aquamacs if I'm messing around with scheme.
I also have a tablet with XP. My favorite editor for Rails is RoRed, but it only works for Windows :(
Most important : Flash Drive, IPod, and laptop or desktop and I can code wherever and whenever I want.
Lately doing Ruby (Ramaze apps) and JRuby (building Swing GUI apps using Monkeybars).
I use Netbeans for some of the JRuby stuff, but do most code editing in vim
I enjoy vim because it rewards me for learning new commands (referencing the "What software makes you happy?" thread).
C, Python, Common Lisp