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Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by cjdjcjfnsns on Friday November 25, 2016 @07:51PM (#13041049)
This sudden moral panic is absurd. "Fake news" has existed for well over a hundred years: they're called tabloids. Pulp tabloids were never a problem until a certain presidential election embarassed the polling industry and everyone started looking for a scapegoat.

If there's anything to take away from this, it's that the DNC et. al did not learn their lesson and we're going to be stuck with four more miserable years under Trump come 2020. You cannot attempt fix the outcome of a primary election and still expect everyone to like you.

Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by astrodust on Friday November 25, 2016 @08:02PM (#13041086)
The number one issue here is that news organizations have been gutted over the last twenty years due to a variety of factors.

CNN under Ted Turner used to have a world-class news team, they'd check sources, they'd investigate the veracity of any claims, they'd get boots on the ground to do their own research. They wouldn't hesitate to get actual experts on the air, people with qualifications relevant to the situation at hand.

They also had the luxury of being able to dig into a story before "breaking" it, there was time to get everything lined up. Now we're in an unrelenting hurricane where something pops up on Twitter and literally five minutes later CNN is parroting it as if it's news.

There's no budget for fact checking. There's no time. There's no buffer against the stream of half-truths, propaganda, and pure bullshit pouring out of this thing we call the internet.

There used to be a substantial difference between The Washington Post and Weekly World News. Today that gap has shrunk to the point where pseudo-news stories end up being published without adequate fact checking and retractions come way too late, if they ever do at all.

CNN's coverage of the first Gulf War was respectable, they had people in Baghdad observing the situation on the ground. Even their September 11 coverage was pretty good, though they were working on their home turf. By the time complex geopolitical struggles like the insurgency in Iraq or the constantly shifting nature of ISIS emerged they had no ability whatsoever to present a coherent story.

Now I wouldn't trust CNN to report on something as numerically simple as the election. They have "experts" on the air that are so obviously political shills it's ridiculous: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/10/14/video-cnn-has-trump-...

It's almost as if people don't care for actual news any more. They're tired of eating their vegetables.

Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by TazeTSchnitzel on Friday November 25, 2016 @07:57PM (#13041071)
Tabloids, for all their problems, are not as bad as fake news. They do have standards, they're just low, and are willing to go on hearsay sometimes. Yet most of what they publish is verifiable, if spun.

Fake news is outright fabricated.

Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by astrodust on Friday November 25, 2016 @07:58PM (#13041073)
Like Weekly World News? The line between that and tabloid news was razor thin, if there was one at all.

They usually make up shit about celebrities and see what sticks, then beat that drum until people tire of it.

Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by freehunter on Friday November 25, 2016 @09:03PM (#13041293)
The thing with Weekly World News is, literally none of it is real. It's all imaginary. And people know that. There's not a single sane person in the US who thinks WWW is a truthful source of news. And I'm not saying "sane" as in "agrees with my point of view" but the literal legal definition of sane. No one with a valid drivers license, who lives on their own without supervision, holds down a steady job, and has responsibilities beyond tying their own shoes believes WWW is news. It's pure entertainment. No one thinks pro wrestling is real either, even though they present it as being real. The "pretend to be real" thing is just part of the entertainment value. It's playing the straight man in a comedy routine.

But my mom, who has a doctorate degree in a medical profession and is a director at a medical organization, firmly believes in everything and anything that's mentioned in a tweet that is aired on CNN. Or posted on Facebook overlaid on a picture of a Minion.

Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by nodesocket on Friday November 25, 2016 @08:05PM (#13041096)
Tabloids don't give everybody a voice and a place to vent frustration and constant outrage (liberals I'm looking at you). I am 100% confident we were better off watching the evening news with Walter Cronkite. At least American's respected Walter and the news was the news, not personal outrage or even worse intentionally false information.
Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by Fomite on Friday November 25, 2016 @08:24PM (#13041171)
"To say that we are closer to victory today is to believe, in the face of the evidence, the optimists who have been wrong in the past. To suggest we are on the edge of defeat is to yield to unreasonable pessimism. To say that we are mired in stalemate seems the only realistic, yet unsatisfactory, conclusion. On the off chance that military and political analysts are right, in the next few months we must test the enemy's intentions, in case this is indeed his last big gasp before negotiations. But it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could." - Walter Cronkite, definitely opinion.
Re:The CNN porn scare is how fake news spreads by nodesocket on Friday November 25, 2016 @08:34PM (#13041200)
I amended my comment, since I know that Walter did give opinion. That was not the spirit of my comment.

> At least American's respected Walter and the news was the news, not personal outrage or even worse intentionally false information.