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Re:Facebook Said to Create Censorship Tool to Get Back into ... by olalonde on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @12:51AM (#13020414)
> A censored [favorite service] with state surveillance is better than no [favorite service] is the new normal. Really?

This is nothing new, it's been going on for a very long time in China and not part of some new global trend. Also, I do think that in China, a "censored [favorite service] with state surveillance is better than no [favorite service]" and so do nearly all the Chinese. Otherwise, by reductio ad absurdum, you'd be forced to conclude that China would be better off without the Internet. This has nothing to do with endorsing censorship/surveillance by the way.

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Re:Facebook Said to Create Censorship Tool to Get Back into ... by 50CNT on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @03:33AM (#13021082)
Honestly, living in China, this might just be more convenient. It's not like my newsfeed is a particularly great source of news, I mostly use FB to keep in touch with friends abroad.

Chinese revolutionaries already know how to circumvent these things on Chinese messaging platforms. They'll just come up with a new set of codewords.

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Re:Facebook Said to Create Censorship Tool to Get Back into ... by nitrogen on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @03:35AM (#13021093)
China's isolation is the responsibility of its government. Chinese citizens should expect their government to change to allow them access to foreign resources. They should not demand that foreign companies change for China, as China's rules are diametrically opposed to the essential values of other countries.
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Re:Facebook Said to Create Censorship Tool to Get Back into ... by throwaway7312 on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @04:22AM (#13021265)
There's a lot of 'should's there. Whether China should or should not demand foreign companies change for China is irrelevant. China does demand it... And foreign companies do change.
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Re:Facebook Said to Create Censorship Tool to Get Back into ... by nitrogen on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @12:34PM (#13024153)
...and people have an obligation to be upset about it.
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Re:Facebook Said to Create Censorship Tool to Get Back into ... by otaviokz on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @04:13AM (#13021235)
They should be smarter and do like our governments in the "West" do, just brainwash their own citizens enough so they don't even care for external content/data.
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