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Re:Bouncing bomb by cyberferret on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @05:32PM (#12962936)
Oh I agree with you. It is just that the dam busters raid was such a powerful propaganda piece - "English ingenuity over the Evil Empire" type thing, and I truly do admire the technical skills and bravery involved in the whole raid.

But the downvotes that my comment above (and no doubt this one) gets just exacerbates the whitewashing of Allied atrocities during WWII. Case in point:

"Bomber command lost nearly 50% of their crew during WWII" - "Oh dear that is terrible tragedy - upvotes for you, my friend for pointing out this invaluable fact."

"Lots of German civilians were killed in the floods after the Dambuster raid" - "Meh, who cares? Cost of war. Downvoted. NEXT!"

Re:Bouncing bomb by sujayakar on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @07:04PM (#12963492)
Yeah, I think it's pretty interesting to compare Germany with Japan in that case. Japanese cultural memory and historiography intensely remembers the suffering of civilians from famine, firebombing, and nuclear weapons [1] (but rarely from the military itself [2]), but even suggesting that German civilians suffered unnecessarily from strategic bombing in Der Brand (2002) earned Jörg Friedrich, a German historian of Nazi war crimes, widespread censure.

[1] Grave of the Fireflies is a gorgeous, heartbreaking film. Highly recommended!

[2] See the discussion of Okinawa in http://apjjf.org/-Mark-Selden/3173/article.html

Re:Bouncing bomb by nsomaru on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @06:07AM (#12966033)
Hmm. I suppose this would be unfair if it were just a case of "Allies won and Axis didn't, so let's tell Allied stories and not Axis ones."

But the Germans were aggressors in this case, whose democratically elected leader initiated and waged one of the most terrible wars that the world has ever seen. So maybe the reaction you're seeing is a result of that?

Re:Bouncing bomb by DanBC on Thursday November 17, 2016 @07:24AM (#12976805)
Not sure if it helps, but previously I've mentioned the bombing of civilians:

3 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5932493#5934692

2 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9171303#9171730