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Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by pmoriarty on Sunday November 13, 2016 @12:25PM (#12944400)
Trump has said that "torture works", and "I like waterboarding a lot", and that he would "bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding".

When asked about former CIA Director Michael Hayden’s recent comments that the military could defy unlawful orders to torture or kill civilians, Trump said, "They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse, believe me."

Thanks 50% of American voters. You're helping to make the world an even worse shithole than it already is.

Trump couldn't have done it without you.

Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by trevelyan on Sunday November 13, 2016 @08:04PM (#12946767)
I share your condemnation of torture, but can we at least drop the partisanship and admit the alternative was hardly any better:

> So the problem for the US and the Europeans has been from the very beginning: What is it you -- who is it you are going to try to arm? [Hillary Clinton -- Goldman Sachs speeches]

In a world where the US acknowledges its role funneling weapons to extremists, the mainstream media doesn't raise an eyebrow at drone-bombings and the President is openly running an extrajudicial kill-list out of the White House, having a presidential candidate suggest that torture is a legitimate tool of war isn't even comparatively retrograde.

Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by gragas on Sunday November 13, 2016 @12:43PM (#12944503)
I think people voted for Trump because they agree with his stance. Is that such a ridiculous idea?
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by truth_sentinell on Sunday November 13, 2016 @01:02PM (#12944598)
Trump is a reflection of American society.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by Chris2048 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @01:33PM (#12944787)
Or not?
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by lambertsimnel on Sunday November 13, 2016 @12:38PM (#12944483)
No presidential candidate got ≥50% of the vote. Clinton got the most votes, but still less than half. And that's just out of votes cast. Clinton got the backing of barely 27% of eligible voters and Trump got even less.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by Chris2048 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @01:33PM (#12944784)
Comment said "of American voters".

If you don't vote, you lose it, so why mention this?

Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by lambertsimnel on Sunday November 13, 2016 @01:50PM (#12944882)
To me "voters" seems as likely to mean "those eligible to vote" as not. I agree that the proportion of votes cast is more relevant.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by benchaney on Sunday November 13, 2016 @02:23PM (#12945092)
Even if you include only votes cast, both Clinton and Trump got < 50% of votes.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by vacri on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:42PM (#12945541)
Oh, then if Trump only got 47% of the vote, the OP's point is irrelevant? Phew.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by jsight on Sunday November 13, 2016 @08:49PM (#12946956)
Well, Hillary received more votes than Trump either way.
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Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by spraak on Sunday November 13, 2016 @02:29PM (#12945122)
> While Soros brightest younguns riot for transgender bathrooms when not on campus indulging in Play-Doh and therapy dogs..

What are you referencing?

Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by rublev on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:01PM (#12945304)
Probably United We Dream.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by dualogy on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:12PM (#12945371)
> Probably United We Dream

And BLM and MoveOn and Femen and all those well-funded (mostly by the same "billionaire philantrophist" famed for regime change since the late 80s) "activist groups". Brilliant stuff, back around the millenium "young liberal idealists" took to the streets against neocon governmental action like Kosovo war, the first post-9/11 wars, "WTO/world bank/IMF globalization" and such. Today, it is someone like Trump singlehandedly dismantling TPP and TTIP before even taking office, while this generation of young liberals are protected in very "safe spaces" from the knowledge of their governments' MENA meddlings, wedding dronings, or indeed good ole Guantanamo.. quite convenient for the "Democrats" of the last 8 years that most of the liberals/millenials go around in circles about gender and race and vegan superfoods. Real issues in society. ODDLY convenient!

Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by sean_patel on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:45PM (#12945559)
You lost me when you brought "vegan superfoods" into your rambling response :)
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by dualogy on Sunday November 13, 2016 @04:26PM (#12945769)
I guess the essential message to my upper comments' parent was that when the "center-left" become neocons-in-practice-when-at-the-helm with plenty of social-justice-facade distractions (gender/race/bla) from the real crimes, the alt-right wins just a small-but-decisive extra contingent of people simply by sloganeering "let's tone down our too many military engagements in the world". A challenge to suggest such dynamics in brief outside the scope of a multi-page essay, but still wanted to quickly put the thought out there for anyone willing to ponder
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by ap22213 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:26PM (#12945446)
I have no idea what that all means.
Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by roywiggins on Sunday November 13, 2016 @06:08PM (#12946293)
Try being transgender and denied access to bathrooms and you might find the issue slightly more pressing than it sounds. Separate but equal doesn't work for racial minorities, why should students accept it with other minorities?

Anyway, Congress in a bipartisan effort made it illegal to transfer prisoners into the US from Gitmo. Can't pin Gitmo entirely on Obama.

Re:Where Even Nightmares Are Classified: Psychiatric Care at... by Belenus on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:29PM (#12945469)
And now Trump says he's going to bring back the banned techniques. Great.