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Re:Obama Administration Gives Up on Pacific Trade Deal by fucking_tragedy on Friday November 11, 2016 @04:28PM (#12934539)
> Globalism is good for people overall

Who is it good for and how?

Re:Obama Administration Gives Up on Pacific Trade Deal by losteric on Friday November 11, 2016 @04:47PM (#12934761)
In theory, there are couple benefits:

* Cheaper products for everyone

* Competition drives innovation

* Lower risk of large-scale wars

* Ship high-pollution industries overseas

* Improved price stability

In practice, it falls apart because...

- US has a poor social safety net. Low-income workers often end up jobless or in even lower skilled jobs

- Globalism builds bigger corporations, which actively suppress competition

- Big direct wars are replaced with constantly simmering proxy wars

- We can't control environmental degradation in other countries

Re:Obama Administration Gives Up on Pacific Trade Deal by eru on Friday November 11, 2016 @04:59PM (#12934865)
People who can buy cheaper fridges. People who can sell cheaper fridges.
Re:Obama Administration Gives Up on Pacific Trade Deal by fucking_tragedy on Saturday November 12, 2016 @10:56AM (#12938454)
How can people buy cheaper fridges when they're no longer employed because it is cheaper to employ someone to do their jobs where safety, benefits and human rights don't exist?
Re:Obama Administration Gives Up on Pacific Trade Deal by eru on Saturday November 12, 2016 @03:17PM (#12939944)
Unemployment doesn't work that way. Otherwise, eg Singapore would have lots and lots of unemployment.

Enough aggregate demand and a flexible labour market lead to low unemployment. (And on the flip side, a shortfall of aggregate demand can lead to recession and high unemployment.)

Central banks can with their fiat currencies these days can always print enough money (eg quantitative easing) to prop up aggregate demand, if they choose so.