Except I didn't call voters stupid, I simply summarized what Trump said.
> We can talk about [...] It would probably be fine [...] But he's the President-elect.
Of course we can talk about it. We have freedom of speech (wasn't this the original point?). You mean to tell me he can say whatever he wants but I can't call him out because he's the president-elect?
I get it that everyone whats to prevent things from going worse but we shouldn't close our eyes or accept whatever Trump happens to say or do out of fear. He shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants because "we must be united". He should be called out and, if necessary held accountable.
If the borders were controlled and immigration was regulated, then you have no Nazis gaining support.
This is the side effect of these open borders policies in Germany.
The liberal strategy is fundamentally flawed. Fighting racism through driving it underground is not the right approach.
Its so sad.
Racist and misogynist are very heavy terms, and once they are in the mix, there is no way a moderate is going to go near the discussion. It is like "you are racist, racists shouldn't be listened to, I will not listen to you".
There have been so many comments like this in this thread - even when the original comment is pointing this out. Sigh.
Its so great to learn something I did not think of during a discussion like this. Its exactly what its for.
> Bias, bias, bias, and bias.
And also share with you a special kind of bias you might be victim of: confirmation bias.
Also your quotes:
> Racist and misogynist are very heavy terms
> On misogyny - she (Clinton) has never attacked a woman's character before?
So, misogyny is a very heavy term, but you consider it's ok to attribute it to someone who simply attacks a woman's character (which actually has nothing to do with any definition of misogyny).
Also, if you need proof that those terms weren't used lightly, I urge you to read another of my comments [1] where I posted videos of Trump proving he deserves being called that.
It's quite similar to the post-Brexit discussions, how pro-Bexit people are stupid, etc.
We can talk about what a "liar, misogynist, tech illiterate, arrogant and overall a disgusting human being" he is all we want. It would probably be fine, as in it wouldn't really matter, if he was some random radical weirdo with an audience of a dozen equally weird folks. But he's the President-elect.
So we can continue with this circle jerk rant about what a disgusting human being is and what his voters are like. Or we can try to actually understand why so many people voted for him. But in order to do that, we need to stop the whole rant that never changes.
I am not pro-Trump. In fact, my safety largely depends on NATO and Trump poses a threat. But there's no point in shouting about what a misogynist he is. It's so counterproductive.