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Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by foldr on Thursday November 10, 2016 @06:59AM (#12919672)
>What's the worst that it will happen to you?

I don't want to make this too personal, but I notice that in another post you were talking about how you have a site which is aiming to make it easier for Latinos to get jobs in tech. And by the way, it sucks that it got such a negative reaction, but HN is a very conservative forum.

Trump's policies might not have an effect on you personally. (I'm aware that the majority of Latinos in the US are citizens or green card holders and don't have to worry about immigration rules, etc.) But I'm kind of baffled that you can't see why Latinos in general might have something to fear from a Trump presidency. If Trump means what he says, millions of Latinos are going to be deported, including family members of US citizens.

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by muhammad11 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:08AM (#12921574)
Latinos who are US citizens have nothing to worry about YOU ARE RIGHT! Why do the ones that are here illegally have right not to be threatened? They are breaking the law and hurting our citizens. We have to draw the line somewhere. The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate, they are just tired of being taken advantage of
Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by foldr on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:15AM (#12921644)
Unless they have parents or other relatives who aren't officially allowed to be here. There are a lot of people in that situation. Deporting everyone who's in violation of immigration rules would involve splitting up an enormous number of families, and gut whole sections of the economy.

> The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate,

But it's not Trump supporters who are now running the country. It's Donald Trump. It doesn't matter how nice you are if you vote for a hateful candidate.

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by DefaultUserHN on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:10PM (#12924379)
>...and gut whole sections of the economy.

And those jobs will now go to Americans who needs a job.

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by yacn on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @12:55AM (#13020426)
You're fucking insane if you think that's going to happen.
Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by foldr on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:15PM (#12924432)
A lot of Germans didn't do too badly out of Kristallnacht either. If you think that putting people in camps and spitting up families is a good way of lowering unemployment then, well, we will soon see how that works out. I hope that you will be held accountable for your views when the US returns to sanity.
Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by DefaultUserHN on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:20PM (#12924471)
No one is getting sent to concentration camps. People who are here illegally, especially criminals, are just being sent back to their home country.

Remember, it's the United States of America, not the United States of Earth. We shouldn't have to be responsible for citizens of other countries. It's time for other countries to start taking care of their own citizens too. Why should we have to take care of citizens of all those other countries? Maybe it's time they get their own Trump, so they can Make Their Countries Great Again too.

And it's not like they can't come back. They can come back, but they have to do it legally, through the Legal Immigration Process, like everyone else.

There are millions of legal immigrants waiting in line to get into the United States. Why should illegal be able to cut straight to the front of the line? That is not fair to the legal immigrants who have been waiting in line for months or years.

Not only that, what Trump is doing is nothing new. Did you know that Obama deported more than 2.5 million illegal immigrants?

And George Bush deported 2 million illegal immigrants.

Trump is just continuing what Obama have been doing.

Of course, it would be great if the United States have enough money to take care of everybody in the world, but... we have to be realistic.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-num...

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by foldr on Thursday November 10, 2016 @06:14PM (#12925535)
> People who are here illegally, especially criminals, are just being sent back to their home country

There is no way of deporting millions of people without processing them through camps or detention centers of some sort.

> They can come back, but they have to do it legally, through the Legal Immigration Process, like everyone else.

Which visa would a typical Mexican person apply for to immigrate to the US legally?

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by DefaultUserHN on Thursday November 10, 2016 @06:24PM (#12925637)
>There is no way of deporting millions of people without processing them through camps or detention centers of some sort.

Well, gonna have to research how Obama and Bush did it. If they can do it, Trump should be able to do the same thing.

>Which visa would a typical Mexican person apply for to immigrate to the US legally?

Well, how I came was, I had to apply for a Green Card to become a resident (legal immigrant) of the United States.

You can also apply for any work related visas that you qualify for (work visa is temporary residency only). Or, you can marry a U.S. citizen (permanent citizenship).

The good thing is, Trump plans to make the Immigration Process more efficient and faster for people who are legally migrating to the United States.

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by foldr on Thursday November 10, 2016 @06:58PM (#12925948)
>Well, gonna have to research how Obama and Bush did it.

They process them through detention centers.

> I had to apply for a Green Card

Citizens of Mexico are not eligible for the green card lottery, so there is no way they can just "apply" for a green card. They would have to come on some kind of visa first.

> You can also apply for any work related visas that you qualify for

Most people do not qualify for any such visas. Mexicans can get NAFTA visas if they have the right kind of job offer (until Trump does away with NAFTA, of course), but those are nonimmigrant visas, and almost certain to be denied to people who have family in the US, since this would be taken as indication of immigrant intent.

>Or, you can marry a U.S. citizen

Difficult when you are living in Mexico.

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by DefaultUserHN on Thursday November 10, 2016 @07:28PM (#12926196)
Well, it makes sense now why Trump said he wants to streamline the immigration process.

Another thing though is, the United States can not save everyone. In this case, Mexico will have to negotiate with Trump, if they want to send their people to the United States.

Maybe Mexico can even agree to build a wall, in return for Green Cards...

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by yacn on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @12:58AM (#13020443)
You disgust me.
Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by DefaultUserHN on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:28AM (#13078239)
Eww. You're disgusting. Get away from me.
Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by yacn on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @12:57AM (#13020435)
Okay fascist.
Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by DefaultUserHN on Thursday December 01, 2016 @04:25AM (#13078235)
Are Obama and Bush fascist too?

Is all those other Presidents that deports immigrants fascist too?

You keep using the word fascist, but you do not know what it means.

Re:Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously by moyta on Thursday November 10, 2016 @08:31AM (#12920158)
It is very likely US citizens will be deported in the process, think about how many people it took to round up just 110,000 Japanese[1] during WW2 to put in concentration camps in the US, now think of it on the scale of tens of millions.

What do we do with the millions that are undocumented but have no nationality? Where can we put them? Are they perchance actually US Citizens that have been in the US since we took over vast swaths of Mexico?

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America...