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Re:New MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in just fi... by Touche on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @12:59PM (#12912736)
> The only thing we've lost is the physical escape and function keys, and that's not exactly a show-stopper. Possibly a mild inconvenience.

Show-stopper for me. I have no need to retrain my coding habits, there are plenty of computer companies that still happily provide the ESC key as they have for the last 30 years, so I'll just move to one of those computer brands.

Re:New MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in just fi... by jkchu on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:01PM (#12924305)
Honestly curious, as I don't have a strong opinion against the Touch Bar.

Is your main gripe that the esc key is no longer a physical key? Or that learning a new placement of the esc key is difficult to adjust to?

Re:New MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in just fi... by alasdair_ on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @05:53PM (#12915636)
Have you tried using 'jj' or 'jk' instead?
Re:New MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in just fi... by mml on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @02:51PM (#12913959)
or use an external keyboard, which is what I plan on doing.
Re:New MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in just fi... by Touche on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @03:02PM (#12914070)
I code a lot sitting on the couch, external keyboards are pretty inconvenient.

But to your point, there are many ways I could workaround this change (changing key mappings, for example). But my point is; I don't have to. There are plenty of companies willing to sell me a computer with the same keyboard layout that's been standard for the last 30 years. I'll just buy one of those.

I see this no different than any other product I use on a daily basis; I would be resistant to change if it aversely affected my use. Luckily, I don't need to change my habits to conform to Apple's latest bravery. Apple needs to know this; they don't own their customers.