Yes it's almost as if McCain voters were mostly straight white people with very little to lose with an Obama presidency. Almost as if, say, major portions of the left today are marginalized groups who are now at risk of a Klan backed president....

Funny how that works out

Robert Byrd left the KKK in the 1940s. Then he spent decades apologising for it, saying he had been wrong, and fighting FOR Civil Rights. THe NAACP said this of Byrd when he died:

"Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country."[1]

Does this really compare to Trump's support from the KKK and his resistance to rejecting them?

1: https://donate.naacp.org/press/entry/naacp-mourns-the-passin...

It doesn't compare.

A Republican who was once in the KKK would never be forgiven no matter how many decades went by.

And you aren't responsible for who endorses you. Trump doesn't actually believe in white supremacy, so a KKK endorsement is meaningless and it's a logical fallacy to say otherwise. If the KKK endorsed carrot cake, carrot cake would not suddenly be bad.

Unless it's the kind with the overly sweetened frosting they serve in cafeterias. With the little orange and green frosting carrot on top.

at risk of what? slave labor to build the magnificent wall of USA?

Don't be glib. Mike pence has come out in favor of conversion therapy for gays, a barbaric method with no scientific basis and a near 50% suicide rate. Trump has sexually assaulted and abused multiple women and has gotten away with it. Trump has called the Mexican people dangerous and a threat to the united States. All of these people are now at risk

So do you think this ends in gas chambers? It's a serious question.

Ok, downvote but don't answer. Trump is LITERALLY HITLER, but let's not talk about genocide, that's just silly.

It's not like Trump is responsible for who endorses him. But if we're going to apply that logic, then we may as well get all up in arms about the Clinton Foundation and the countries who've backed that.

Sorry if I misunderstood, but you're saying maturity means being unemotional?

Maturity means perspective.

This is extremely difficult for everyone after a campaign with as much fear and fear-mongering on both sides. The voices calling for moderation and composure are not unemotional, they may just have a different perspective.

I don't think the fears we currently face can be dismissed as fear-mongering. When someone says, "My opponent will start a war over a rude gesture," that is fear-mongering. When someone says "I will start a war over a rude gesture," well, I feel like I should believe them.

But he's a politician, right. So anything and everything that comes out of his mouth has a 110% likelihood of being nonsense.

If he said "I'm going to end homelessness" would you believe him?

No, but only because that's impossible. Starting a war with Iran is well within his powers.

That's a good point. I just feel that when a politician says "I am going to" what they mean is "I will not".

Time will tell.

I know what you mean, and sometimes I feel that way too. But I think a lot of it is just overpromising. Politicians promise the moon and stars, when all they have is a tall ladder. It's especially bad with American presidents, who the people see as almost an emperor, but whose power is relatively limited in most areas. It's crazy how many times I saw people say things like, "Trump will cut taxes on..." or "Clinton will raise taxes on...." No they won't, that's Congress's area!

But telling the military to sink another country's ships, that is something the president can do....

> If he said "I'm going to end homelessness" would you believe him?

I believe that they would try. Starting a military conflict is well within the abilities of a president, especially when his party has control over both houses of congress and a demonstrated inability to stand up to him.

Maturity is feeling right emotions at the right time for the right reasons.

Nah, it's expressing the right emotions at the right time for the right reasons.

No? Maturity is about what you DO, not what you feel.