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Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by jaimex2 on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:18PM (#12896824)
+1 Never take a counter offer.

You'll get more pay but you're stuck in the same company run by the same narrow minds.

Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by Tom1971 on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:58PM (#12897780)
That's a rather narrow minded way to thinking about the issue.

I've accepted a counter offer twice, and both times I was glad that I did.

There could be many other reasons for a company not paying what you can get somewhere else. A very trivial one is the yearly update cycle: that may happen in January whereas you get an offer in June. Companies that hire don't align to the schedule of your current one.

And hiring companies inherently know asking somebody to quit and somewhere else carries a risk that needs some amount of kind of reward.

Hell, how can one personally even know what he/she is worth? There are so many factors at play. It'd be narrow minded to expect pricing perfection on something nobody really can get right.

Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by nowbacktowork on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:31PM (#12897381)
Yes, but these are the narrow minds you know. Be sure there will be a new/different set of narrow minds at the next company.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by meric on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:34PM (#12896902)
In my experience narrow minds can be expanded.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by MaulingMonkey on Monday November 07, 2016 @09:53PM (#12897225)
Sure. If you need to seek out an offer every time you want to expand them, it's going to take a bit of work however.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by edem on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @03:53AM (#12898664)
All narrow minds can be expanded in theory. With an axe for example.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by ionised on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:16AM (#12901416)
Plus they'll likely be looking to drop you in favour of someone they can play less soon after.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by user5994461 on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @02:01PM (#12902962)
I'd like to strongly opposite to this advise.

You've got 2 companies you can work at. You should go to the one you prefer to work with. Maybe that's the one you already are in, maybe not.

Do what's best for yourself.

Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by acjohnson55 on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:32PM (#12897386)
Never say never.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by tormeh on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @08:25AM (#12899995)
Some employers have special exemptions for counter-offers; your boss literally gets more money for your raise if you have a competing offer.
Re:Software Developers: how to get a raise without changing ... by tuananh on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @01:34AM (#12898164)
Not always the case. I did accept counter-offer and it worked out pretty well.