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Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by ausjke on Saturday November 05, 2016 @10:03AM (#12879809)
what are the two communities are you referring to? one of them might be frontend developers(ui,js,html,css,etc)? what is the other one?

I'm a low-level guy and learning some web coding these days, so I can tell the difference views on software between HN and other places.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by sidlls on Saturday November 05, 2016 @02:22PM (#12881084)
Mainly the group that thinks of everything in terms of the mathematics of CS, and the group who thinks in terms primarily of "just ship, ship, ship code 'pragmatists'."

It isn't really divided by front end versus back end or the like.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by bbotond on Saturday November 05, 2016 @10:57AM (#12879993)
My guess is the FP (especially Lisp) crowd.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by ainot on Saturday November 05, 2016 @12:21PM (#12880388)
The FP crowd is so vocal. Reformed math geeks who are trying to evangelize the world of programming to do things one way; their way.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by Slackwise on Saturday November 05, 2016 @02:55PM (#12881273)
> Reformed math geeks

I presume you mean the Haskell crowd? The Lisp crowd is more about expression rather than "correctness" and rigidity. FP doesn't really have a formal definition.

> trying to evangelize the world of programming to do things one way; their way.

I think the world of computing is shifting towards a lot of async work, and if you've ever written large threaded apps, having too much state becomes the greatest of burdens. Clojure, for example, minimizes state and uses Software Transactional Memory to manage mutability.

Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by sidlls on Saturday November 05, 2016 @06:58PM (#12882373)
What's old is new again, it seems.
Re:Ask HN: Do you still use UML? by ainot on Saturday November 05, 2016 @11:33PM (#12883362)
If only the LISP syntax looked like a programming language and made logical sense.