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Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by warlox on Thursday November 03, 2016 @09:05PM (#12869591)
The only ridiculous false allegations in your comment are the ones against George Soros. The allegations against Trump are neither (provably) false nor ridiculous.

Donald Trump is just as involved with Epstein as Bill Clinton is.

Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by mcv on Friday November 04, 2016 @07:56AM (#12871861)
> Donald Trump is just as involved with Epstein as Bill Clinton is.

And of those two, only one is currently running for president.

It's interesting to see Trump supporters go out of their way of pointing out that Bill Clinton is nearly as terrible as Donald Trump because they can't find that level of dirt on Hillary Clinton, but it ignores two important facts:

* Donald Trump is every bit as bad as Bill Clinton on these issues (if not worse)

* Bill Clinton is not running for president. Attacking him with the exact same dirt that Donald Trump has, is (or should be, in a sane society) be counterproductive. Attacking Bill for these things while continuing to support Donald is the height of hypocrisy.

Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by notoothpaste on Friday November 04, 2016 @06:49PM (#12876859)
I wonder what it's like to experience this level of cognitive dissonance.
Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by mcv on Saturday November 05, 2016 @05:48PM (#12882074)
We may never know. But here's what I suspect: maybe they don't experience cognitive dissonance at all. Many Trump supporters, like Trump himself, don't seem at all interested in any kind of rational consistency; it's all fear and emotion and gut feelings and hatred, and they latch on to any argument that superficially seems to justify their hatred, completely oblivious to the fact that their argument would hurt their own candidate even more.

It's only a theory of course; I can't look inside their heads. But the lack of consistency is clear.

Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by warlox on Saturday November 05, 2016 @06:26PM (#12882259)
notoothpaste is a Trump supporter. He's accusing you of cognitive dissonance.
Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by mcv on Sunday November 06, 2016 @06:14PM (#12887661)
His comment works better the other way around.
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Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by warlox on Saturday November 05, 2016 @06:29PM (#12882281)
> That is far too deep a rabbit hole to get into in an HN comment, but for starters, he is both one of Hillary's largest donors, and he owns the companies that make our voting machines. The very same voting machines that have already in early voting experienced a high frequency of "glitches" flipping votes from straight-ticket conservative ballots to Hillary.

Citation needed. No right wing conspiracy sites/blogs or other unreliable sources, please.

As for the Clinton/Trump stuff, I'm not even going to engage with you on it because I've already made my decision based on the fact that I want to keep the KKK Nazis as far away from power as possible, independent of any of the candidates' personal scandals.

Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by zimpenfish on Friday November 04, 2016 @08:28AM (#12872009)
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billion... disagrees with "He flew on his plane once" as the only involvement Trump had with Epstein.

> “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. Calling him a “terrific guy,” Trump continued, “He’s a lot of fun to be with.“

> in the late ’90s, Trump would attend dinner parties at the 71st Street mansion.

> In April 1999, The Mail spotted Trump among the guests at a dinner Epstein threw in honor of Prince Andrew.

> Police evidence shows Trump has called Epstein, flown on Epstein’s plane, and eaten in Epstein’s Florida home.

Re:Why Are US Presidential Elections So Close? by notoothpaste on Friday November 04, 2016 @02:17AM (#12870706)
Too late to edit, but how can I forget, Trump banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club after he caught him hitting on an underaged girl.