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Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by NicoJuicy on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:43AM (#12804013)
a seemingly rare defeat for a company that has done little-to-no wrong in the last decade (save for maybe the Apple Watch depending on how you look at it).

--> Google Maps vs Apple Maps?

Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by arethuza on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:08AM (#12804133)
I use both Google, Bing, Apple maps and OpenStreetMap:

- For general searching and desktop use I prefer Google

- Bing and Apple have much more up to date "satellite" views than Google (for the areas I am interested in) - Apple maps have a spectacularly good 3d version of the city that I live (Edinburgh) in which I love looking at - Google 3D version had a huge error near to where I live

- Bing has UK Ordnance Survey maps, which is brilliant for outdoor activities

- OpenStreetMap is great for paths/cycle-paths in some areas

Edit: For one area I've been looking at (in Fife) the Google Earth view is about 12 years old - which is actually quite handy as we are looking at buying a house there that was built ~10 years ago so it is interesting to be able to see what was there before the houses were built!

Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by astannard on Thursday October 27, 2016 @08:23AM (#12804462)
I am not sure the watch is a failure yet but not the best start. I wrote a piece on how much the watch devalues which I find odd how high that figure is https://medium.com/@AndyStannard/apple-watch-depreciation-so...
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by oarsinsync on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:45AM (#12804019)
Took 3 years to turn that around

> Apple Maps is now used three times as often as its “next leading competitor” on iPhone and iPad

https://9to5mac.com/2015/12/07/apple-maps-usage-numbers/

Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by adamors on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:04AM (#12804103)
It's still inferior to Google Maps tho. It's not outright bad, but for directions/traffic Google Maps is still miles ahead (at least in random European countries).
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by ghettoimp on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:06AM (#12804116)
Shouldn't it be kilometers ahead in random European countries?
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by neonhomer on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:15AM (#12804165)
I'd say that Google Maps is streets ahead of Apple Maps still. :P
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by vacri on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:23AM (#12804200)
Not in the UK, should the RNG be so disposed.
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by utspekulert on Thursday October 27, 2016 @09:10AM (#12804783)
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by majewsky on Thursday October 27, 2016 @09:27AM (#12804903)
s/random European countries/everywhere except GB/
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by mikejb on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:14AM (#12804163)
Those numbers might be driven by the quality of Apple Maps, or by changes in iOS: it became less intuitive to use 'leading competitors' on the iPhone and iPad. At least I was unable to send my mom's iPhone to Google Maps when she clicks on an address I sent her - I have to send her a Google Maps link.
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by tdkl on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:12AM (#12804155)
Of course, it's the default app opened on click that cannot be changed.
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by neonhomer on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:17AM (#12804172)
This! In iOS you can delete Apple Maps but it then just prompts you to re-download it when an app tries to open a map. It's worse than the old IE default browser.
Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by cyberferret on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:44AM (#12804297)
I never actually open the maps app on my iPhone. I just ask Siri for directions, and I presume she uses the default Apple maps as the base.

I'd suggest that the data is skewed because a lot of people would be doing the same thing. The evolution of the phone UI basically indicates that individual apps are fading as identifiable components. Modern bots and mashup interfaces just pull data from different app/sources and present an amalgamated view. I neither know, nor care whether Siri is pulling her route data from Google or Apple maps, or somewhere else.

Re:What Apple’s quiet failure can teach you about your business by dijit on Thursday October 27, 2016 @07:06AM (#12804117)
Reasonably, for Europeans this helped them a lot because google maps enabled iOS could not search for businesses or restaurants outside of the USA.

Even if navigation took a few iterations to catch up.