You're right! I did fail to expressly address the second half of your comment. Please accept my apologies for this egregious oversight.

The other half of your comment suffers from the same flaw. The source you provide has high-level numbers, but it doesn't show how much of that is actually glyphosate-related. You're free to assume it's 100%, but it may not be maximally wise to expect everyone else to make the same leap of logic.

It is known for certain that the number is not 100%, because Monsanto is known to have revenue-generating businesses outside of glyphosate.

I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole that always seems to appear whenever Monsanto is discussed. You can see in Monsanto's own website and literature, (for example [1]), that the majority of their revenue comes from glyphosate and glyphosate related products. If you wish to gaslight and deny reality, then we can end this discussion now.

details strong revenue of their glyphosate-resistent soybean:

[1] http://www.monsanto.com/investors/pages/letter-to-shareowner...

I'm sorry. I was unaware that it was gaslighting someone to suggest that perhaps numbers in supporting documentation should be involved when they make strong claims about verifiable financial questions.

I'll stop immediately. Please accept my deepest and humblest apologies.

You can be sarcastic and rude, but you shouldn't be lazy. We aren't talking about something abstract like whether alien life exists. You can visit the website of the company's brands directly. If you still decide to sarcastically ignore this, I will assume you have an agenda.

http://www.monsanto.com/investors/documents/pubs/2007/ar_200...

Top products in the 10 billion revenue segment:

See references that each of these is glyphosate resistent

DEKALB [1] [2]

Asgrow [3] [4]

Deltapine [5]

Seminis [6]

[1] https://www.aganytime.com/dekalb/specialty/Pages/Spring-Cano...

[2] https://www.aganytime.com/dekalb/Pages/default.aspx

[3] https://www.aganytime.com/asgrow/Pages/default.aspx

[4] https://www.aganytime.com/asgrow/weed-mgt/Pages/Roundup-Read...

[5] http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/deltapine.aspx

[6] https://www.seminis.com/global/us/products/Pages/Performance...

No one doubts that Monsanto is making money of this, but they are really not the only ones Bayer and BASF SE are big even bigger than Monsanto you also have Pioneer (dupont) and quite a few other players which are of a similar size. You also have China which are doing their own thing probably violating every patent in the world in the process.

> No one doubts that Monsanto is making money of this

What? The whole point of this thread was to allay Kalium's doubts. Am I taking crazy pills here?

  >  Am I taking crazy pills here?

If you are, then so am I. Could just be all the glyphosate though...

You told me to stop gaslighting you and denying reality. I'm stopping now. My only agenda is complying with your eminently reasonable request.

Do you speak like this in person?

Sometimes. Why?

I mean... It's just really pompous, dorky, and obnoxious.

Believe it or not, sometimes being over-the-top polite and accommodating to people gets them to take a counter-point seriously. You just have to wrap it in a lot of stuff about how they're obviously right and you're clearly completely wrong. Once in a while catering to someone's need to be right lets you slip an idea past it.

It comes off as 100% condescending and patronizing (which is what it is.)

Do you think there's a better way I could have handled that user, given what was attempted by myself and others to no result?

None of that 10b includes glyphosate sales.

The 10b are crops that are genetically altered to resist glyphosate. If glyphosate was banned, then they couldn't sell these crops anymore. Their profits are directly related to glyphosate.

Glyphosate resistance is just one of many traits marketed by Monsanto. Most of the headliners are insect resistance (Bt toxin) and resistance to other herbicides (Liberty) among others.

They're moving their business to focus on value-adds and other things that GMO haters can't torpedo with pseudoscience and FUD. Refuge in Bag solutions, seed coatings, new fungicides, traditional breeding, soil bacteria supplements, mapping & climate data, and other agricultural productivity solutions are the future of their business.

Even if you accept that they make all of their money from glyphosate resistance (which is patently false), the business is moving to emphasis that substantially less than it is now.