WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer Documents

Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by colordrops on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @06:51PM (#12801451)

I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole that always seems to appear whenever Monsanto is discussed. You can see in Monsanto's own website and literature, (for example [1]), that the majority of their revenue comes from glyphosate and glyphosate related products. If you wish to gaslight and deny reality, then we can end this discussion now.

details strong revenue of their glyphosate-resistent soybean:

[1] http://www.monsanto.com/investors/pages/letter-to-shareowner...

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Kalium on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @06:59PM (#12801508)

I'm sorry. I was unaware that it was gaslighting someone to suggest that perhaps numbers in supporting documentation should be involved when they make strong claims about verifiable financial questions.

I'll stop immediately. Please accept my deepest and humblest apologies.

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by colordrops on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @07:17PM (#12801633)

You can be sarcastic and rude, but you shouldn't be lazy. We aren't talking about something abstract like whether alien life exists. You can visit the website of the company's brands directly. If you still decide to sarcastically ignore this, I will assume you have an agenda.

http://www.monsanto.com/investors/documents/pubs/2007/ar_200...

Top products in the 10 billion revenue segment:

See references that each of these is glyphosate resistent

DEKALB [1] [2]

Asgrow [3] [4]

Deltapine [5]

Seminis [6]

[1] https://www.aganytime.com/dekalb/specialty/Pages/Spring-Cano...

[2] https://www.aganytime.com/dekalb/Pages/default.aspx

[3] https://www.aganytime.com/asgrow/Pages/default.aspx

[4] https://www.aganytime.com/asgrow/weed-mgt/Pages/Roundup-Read...

[5] http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/deltapine.aspx

[6] https://www.seminis.com/global/us/products/Pages/Performance...

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by dogma1138 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @07:47PM (#12801792)

No one doubts that Monsanto is making money of this, but they are really not the only ones Bayer and BASF SE are big even bigger than Monsanto you also have Pioneer (dupont) and quite a few other players which are of a similar size. You also have China which are doing their own thing probably violating every patent in the world in the process.

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by colordrops on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @09:59PM (#12802367)

> No one doubts that Monsanto is making money of this

What? The whole point of this thread was to allay Kalium's doubts. Am I taking crazy pills here?

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by stock_toaster on Thursday October 27, 2016 @12:42AM (#12802971)

  >  Am I taking crazy pills here?

If you are, then so am I. Could just be all the glyphosate though...

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Kalium on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @07:34PM (#12801718)

You told me to stop gaslighting you and denying reality. I'm stopping now. My only agenda is complying with your eminently reasonable request.

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by EpicEng on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @11:37PM (#12802743)

Do you speak like this in person?

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Kalium on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:28PM (#12810898)

Sometimes. Why?

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by EpicEng on Thursday October 27, 2016 @09:24PM (#12812191)

I mean... It's just really pompous, dorky, and obnoxious.

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Kalium on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:38AM (#12813390)

Believe it or not, sometimes being over-the-top polite and accommodating to people gets them to take a counter-point seriously. You just have to wrap it in a lot of stuff about how they're obviously right and you're clearly completely wrong. Once in a while catering to someone's need to be right lets you slip an idea past it.

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by EpicEng on Friday October 28, 2016 @11:54AM (#12817333)

It comes off as 100% condescending and patronizing (which is what it is.)

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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Kalium on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:05PM (#12818181)

Do you think there's a better way I could have handled that user, given what was attempted by myself and others to no result?

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