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Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by jshen on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @12:10PM (#12797655)
My thought is that it doesn't matter because MS missed the mobile market. People will default to the products that best integrate with their phones, and that will be iPad Pro or .... whatever the android space has to offer.
Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by WayneBro on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @12:20PM (#12797763)
Do you think a lot of people care about PC/phone integration? I don't see it outside of "contacts and email" which is already fully integrated everywhere thanks to the cloud.

People don't buy Macs because they work well with an iPhone as far as I can tell. They buy Macs for all sorts of other reasons, but that doesn't seem to be one of them.

Every corporate office in the world is running Windows. I'm pretty sure people are going to continue buying whatever they use at work, so unfortunately for HN, Windows is here to stay...(sorry!)

Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by swang on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @12:32PM (#12797894)
I just installed macOS Sierra and have up-to-date iOS 10.1. I still cannot get handoff working. From reading the reports this is not just me. At least Chrome still syncs.
Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by prawn on Thursday October 27, 2016 @12:56AM (#12803013)
Similar experience here. I use iPhone, MBP and iPad. Originally thought that having everything under one umbrella would be a huge help, but the reality is the syncing is such a pain that I never do it. Took me many, many months to even get AirDrop working between my own devices. iTunes is very frustrating to use in managing iOS devices.
Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by swang on Thursday October 27, 2016 @03:42AM (#12803478)
one of the things that apple didn't pointed out is that there are 2 versions of airdrop. i didn't know this and had an older version of osx that wouldn't sync with my iphone. no error message either.
Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by honkhonkpants on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @01:08PM (#12798290)
"Every corporate office in the world is running Windows."

While many companies do use Windows, many others do not, including some very large ones. You think they are using Windows at Apple? That's the world's most valuable company and they have 70000 employees. What about Google? It's another huge company with tens of thousands of employees and you have to beg for permission to run Windows there, and very few do so.

I think Windows has a lock on mid-sized businesses that are large enough to have serious information management challenges, but aren't big enough to solve them. Outside of that zone it is by no means universal.

Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by pionar on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @01:51PM (#12798746)
"Outside of that zone it is by no means universal."

I'd say that outside of your two examples, you'd be hard-pressed to find a Fortune 500 company that doesn't have >90% of its corporate fleet (not servers) being Windows boxes.

Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by sixothree on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @12:40PM (#12798003)
I feel like an iPad mini sized device might help break them into that market. Since I really don't make phone calls, when I have my iPad mini with me I don't really use my phone.
Re:Microsoft Surface Studio by jshen on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:03PM (#12798870)
Nearly everyone in the world owns a phone. It's the default computing device for the world.

See: http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/7/8/capitulation http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/11/7/mobile-ecosyste...

Any additional computer purchase is some kind of conscious choice, and people will default to what they are familiar with. I.e. iOS and Android. This is a big hurdle for microsoft to overcome to convince anyone to buy a computer from them. That's my point, and I think it will be very difficult for them to accomplish at scale.