Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in MacOS Sierra 10.12.1

Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by gkoberger on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:02PM (#12792111)

While I'm not a fan either, don't confuse "what I want" with "what users want".

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by eslaught on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:12PM (#12792208)

I buy clothes that follow fashion trends because when I go to the store there is often literally nothing else to buy, even if I don't particularly like it. I know a lot of people who behave similarly. Yes, I'm choosing to prioritize effort over preference here---the clothes might not be what I want but they're not actually bad enough to make me go to the effort to find better.

Similarly, I will likely buy the new MacBook Pro despite some elements being unnecessary or suboptimal. The laptop is important enough to me that if the keyboard were actually bad enough to outweigh the other benefits I might be incentivized to go to eBay to buy a used one. But realistically, I'll probably survive just fine with the new keyboard. It just makes the experience less "magical" than it could be. And I suspect a lot of people are in the same boat.

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by onion2k on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @03:44AM (#12794650)

I go to the store

There's more than one store.

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by eertami on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @05:32AM (#12795076)

>There's more than one store.

I mean, this is an Apple thread...

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by onion2k on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @10:26AM (#12796645)

Complaining that there are no nice keyboards when you're determined to buy an Apple laptop is like complaining that there aren't any clothes you like after you've decided to only shop at GAP. You can either shop elsewhere or put up with the limited offering.

Or use an external keyboard (for your laptop, not your clothes).

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by davesque on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:03PM (#12792125)

That's what I'm saying though. I know that other people might want this, but I have a hard time understanding how that could be true. Did anyone really ask for it?

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by rayiner on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:05PM (#12792152)

I want it! The butterfly keyboards are fantastic. If you hit a key on a corner, they don't "roll" like keyboards with more travel do. Also, they're thinner and all else being equal will allow for a bigger battery (or maintaining battery size while making the laptop thinner).

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by ant6n on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @08:33PM (#12793008)

What's the advantage of a laptop that's 12mm rather than 13mm?

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by redial on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @11:09PM (#12793603)

That's the thing, there is no advantage. But there certainly is an advantage going from ~24mm (original titanium powerbook) to ~13mm (macbook 12). And we only got here by reducing 1mm at a time.

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by ant6n on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:18PM (#12801936)

As far as a clamshell laptops go, going from 13mm to 4mm doesn't sound that useful though. Especially if in order to do it, I have to sacrifice key travel.

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by idlewords on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @08:47PM (#12793069)

1mm!

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by davesque on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:12PM (#12792203)

All true I guess. Personally, I never noticed any issues with hitting keys on the corner with the scissor-switches. It's never caused a single problem for me. On the other hand, the butterfly keys seem like they could cause RSI issues.

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Re:Images of New MacBook Pro with Magic Toolbar Leaked in Ma... by rayiner on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:26PM (#12792300)

How?

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