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Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by joe_the_user on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @04:02PM (#12738132)
I was recently at a bar where they showed a movie with incomprehensible subtitles (English to English). I assume this was because they skimped and bought automatic subtitling.

I think one important aspect is while humans miss words, they often get the sentence meaning correct. When computers miss words, they tend to substitute words that sound similar. That's readable if you have time but not necessarily as a stream of text going by...

Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by ChrisClark on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @05:57PM (#12739095)
It might have also been a 'bootleg' DVD from China or downloaded a version from there. I've had quite a few where they had done a horrible job translating into Chinese for the subtitles already, and then did a literal machine translation back to English.

The character on the screen said "Hello", the English subtitle said "You good." Which would be the literal translation of nihao.

Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by Arkaad on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:14PM (#12740183)
see also the infamous Star Wars Episode 3 Chinese bootleg "Do no want".
Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by joe_the_user on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @02:14AM (#12741506)
It English subtitling on an movie in English, as they often have at bars.
Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by codekansas on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @08:40PM (#12740014)
From an ML perspective, recently there's been a lot more work done on language modeling (e.g. billion word corpus). Good language models can usually fix those types of perspective. So hopefully you can expect to see that change in the future!
Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by aswanson on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:05PM (#12740131)
Hilarious that the grandparent states performance gained by deleting "I"from the training corpus and the child comment starts with that pronoun.
Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by cloudjacker on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @04:36PM (#12738428)
> I was recently at a bar where they showed a movie with incomprehensible subtitles (English to English). I assume this was because they skimped and bought automatic subtitling.

I don't think that is possible. Like, worse subtitling isn't even an option.

Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by john_oshea on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @05:00PM (#12738666)
"Trainspotting" would be an interesting challenge: <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/may/31/irvinewelsh>
Re:Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech r... by WildUtah on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @11:11AM (#12744473)