Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions
by dragonwriter on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:27PM
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Clinton is clearly on record as having been in favor of giving the President conditional authority to go to war; only Trump is on record actually supporting the decision to go to war.
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Are you saying the current Syrian crisis is entirely attributable to Hillary Clinton and no-one else in the world?
No, but when people in power play their little games this happen.
What is your proposal to remove war from the world? I'm sure a lot of us would be in favor.
We can start by not voting for warmongers and hawks. Americans had an opportunity to vote for Sanders. But I guess they are too far removed from these incidents.
I can't believe I'm linking to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement
It's not too late to vote for Jill Stein. I'm not sure any of the four most prominent candidates are qualified for the position, but at least one could make a vote against war.
Trump outright stated he would deliberately bomb women and children.
Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions
by Normal_gaussian on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:48PM
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That's an odd side line to take it on. Surely it is much better to consider her history as a whole? As far as I'm aware isn't she quite the supporter of what I am assuming we would both consider fundamentally immoral regimes across the world?
Define "supporter". Politics is dirty, and often involves doing business with not-nice people in order to achieve goals. That doesn't mean you support them, just tolerate them. I'm not saying this is a good thing, but this how the world works.
It's hardly as if Trump is any different, when you look at his attitude towards Russia, and that's before he's even gotten any political power.
About the only way to avoid this would be to elect an entirely isolationist President who refuses to talk to the outside world, which isn't really an option these days.
Not really, no. Hillary has made some questionable choices, but I don't think that makes her any more or less "systematically immoral" than Trump - she just has a longer record, because she actually has political experience.
For example, both Trump and Clinton were in favor of the Iraq war. Trump got to backpedal and pretend otherwise later, because he never had to take a binding vote to express his opinion one way or the other. That doesn't make him a better person.