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Re:Open Source is not dead: On the recent demise of RethinkDB by chipotle_coyote on Monday October 17, 2016 @12:56PM (#12726798)
My first was where people pay for product with source + perpetual license (copyright and patent) for that release + GPL-like rights to fix or extend it for their own purposes. Even distribute those to community of paying users.

Interestingly enough, similar models seemed to be more common back in the dark ages of computing before terms like Open Source and Free Software were really a thing, particularly on minicomputers and mainframes. It made its way to the "microcomputer" world in more limited fashion, then sort of slowly died out. But I think there may still be something to the notion of a license that, while not remotely meeting the definition of "free software," still gives you access to the source.

I'll be honest, though; I think FOSS advocates have a tendency to (perhaps unconsciously) downplay how important "free as in beer" has been for the adoption of a lot of major software projects. An internet in which Apache, MySQL, PHP, and other major free software projects were released with commercial "source included" licenses would probably look very different.

I have my own thoughts about RethinkDB's failure as a commercial entity, but despite having actually been inside, I have pretty limited insider knowledge. Perhaps we should have been trying to push an "enterprise edition" with guaranteed support much earlier, following the "charging for OSS stuff" line you mentioned; as others have said, maybe we just didn't have enough avenues through which to give us money. (It's hard not to notice that MariaDB's .com site is essentially page after page of ways to give them money, for instance.)

Re:Open Source is not dead: On the recent demise of RethinkDB by nickpsecurity on Monday October 17, 2016 @01:08PM (#12726915)
The Burroughs MCP came with source with users allowed to submit updates to them for redistribution. So, the first, great mainframe for business operated under shared-source license. It became a multi-billion dollar company. They closed it off and pulled all kinds of schemes eventually. Now called Unisys.

I think a combo of paid with source and closed-source extensions can still get lots of success. We're already seeing it with enterprise editions for features that basically only enterprises use. That keeps them from crippling the main, OSS product which costs less. I also envision giving free licenses to people that contribute lots of code, docs, testing, etc. One way is to simply not charge businesses below a certain revenue amount or only to charge a support fee tied to cost of delivering support. As they grow, so does the software house like in the royalty model.

Re:Open Source is not dead: On the recent demise of RethinkDB by tomcam on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @03:39AM (#12732751)
I just visited mariadb.com and the front page is all about open source. A free download button is 1 click away. Did not get the feeling of a hard sell at all.