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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by stouset on Saturday October 15, 2016 @05:59PM (#12715835)
Perhaps people are responding to your unwarranted, toxic tone, your rudeness elsewhere in the comments, and your inability to give even a modicum of respect to the developers who've not only designed and openly published groundbreaking advances in secure private messaging protocols, and not only implemented them and freely distributed those implementations, but have also worked to have those designs incorporated into the some of the most widely-used messaging software in history.
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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by Canada on Saturday October 15, 2016 @06:44PM (#12715958)
Feel free to propose a secure, decentralized way to pass the payload between the endpoints. Be sure your solution includes an effective mechanism to mitigate spam. Bonus if your solution denies attackers access to the same metadata centralized systems do. Double bonus if you can support push messaging systems to deliver timely notification that users have come to expect.
Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by Natanael_L on Sunday October 16, 2016 @05:58AM (#12717853)
Home servers connected over I2P, hopefully.
Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by ChoHag on Saturday October 15, 2016 @07:11PM (#12716046)
I'm not trying to propose a "way" of anything, "secure", "decentralised" or otherwise! Don't you get it? I'm talking about the documentation.

I have no idea if this solution to the problems posed is sound because before I can even get to the source code there is no description of how or even whether it solves the fundamental problems in the cryptographic situation it describes (viz. device which cannot straightaway engage in IP communication requires to receive unsolicitated securely-encrypted messages).

Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by Canada on Saturday October 15, 2016 @07:55PM (#12716176)
> whether it solves the fundamental problems in the cryptographic situation it describes (viz. device which cannot straightaway engage in IP communication requires to receive unsolicitated securely-encrypted messages).

Please elaborate and clarify.

Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by newjersey on Saturday October 15, 2016 @06:23PM (#12715896)
Instead of responding to the tone, let's concentrate on the merits. For most people, it is unacceptable to require both parties to be simultaneously online in a chat session.

I'm very interested in any potential implementation that allows asymmetric conversations without a dedicated third node (if we don't like the name server) somewhere in between.

Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by stouset on Saturday October 15, 2016 @10:07PM (#12716478)
Of course tone is relevant. Tone is how one has a civil conversation with another person, even if they disagree.
Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by dredmorbius on Sunday October 16, 2016 @10:02AM (#12718607)
Tone matters. It's not everything, but it matters.

There are people, and/or messages, in which a lack of civility needn't warrant a complete dismissal. They're relatively rare.

I'm willing to give a hearing here. Crypto is, for better or worse, an area in which there is a tendency toward both informed and abrasive contributions.

I'm aware HN doesn't take well to that. I've been arguing the opposite strategy for the past few days with a friend (he likes tossing bollocks about, I prefer avoiding that). I'd advise ChoHag to tone it down (and reconsider their chosen handle), but contribute. I did consider vouching the flagged/dead comment, but decided against in this case.

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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by sctb on Sunday October 16, 2016 @01:40PM (#12719804)
> Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html