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Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:09AM (#12701220)
Does anybody actually use Ubuntu in production? I've forsaken it on the desktop (I got sick of my system breaking every 6 months, and having out of date packages), as have many others, but it's still quite popular there. On the server, though?
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by bpicolo on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:10AM (#12701226)
Ubuntu is an extremely commonly used server OS, if that's the question.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by bryanlarsen on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:34AM (#12701401)
According to the first line of the press release: "Ubuntu, the platform used in the majority of cloud deployments worldwide".
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:21AM (#12701307)
Really? Huh.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by pmontra on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:32AM (#12701393)
Really, basically every server I see is either Ubuntu or Centos. Very few Debian. With containers is different, who packaged the container for a given service wins. Example: Elastic uses Debian for their docker images on docker hub.

See also the results of this survey https://brashear.me/blog/2015/08/24/results-of-the-2015-slas...

It begins to be old but this section is telling "Which Linux distribution do you primarily use on your server computers?"

    Distro  #resp  %resp  prev year
    Ubuntu  633    34%    27%
    Debian  539    29%    31%
    CentOS  214    12%    15% 
    ...
Not a large poll but I didn't find anything better in a quick search on Google.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by ufo on Thursday October 13, 2016 @04:32PM (#12703803)
Doesn't that poll contradict your "very few Debian" statement?
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by pmontra on Thursday October 13, 2016 @06:29PM (#12704661)
In part yes, but I'm a developer so I'm probably seeing those new Ubuntus that made Ubuntu overtake Debian. If I were an op I'll probably have a more balanced view.

Furthermore the sample is relatively small and my own sample is at least 100x smaller.

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by pragmar on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:59AM (#12701642)
CentOS is in a tricky position with regard to ALPN/http2 support--there's absolutely nothing on the horizon. A continuing shift to Ubuntu in the webserver space is almost certain in the mid-term.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @08:07PM (#12705257)
How many companies are moving to ALPN/http2? AFAIK, they're still pretty fringe.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by toss1941 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:18AM (#12701287)
I've seen it used in a big financial firm that processes card-holder data, but they were phasing it out in favor of Redhat. Still, Ubuntu is a solid choice for servers I believe, it seems to have fallen out of favor in some places though.

Second your desktop comment, Unity is unusable for me.

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:22AM (#12701316)
Okay.

Yeah, it wasn't even Unity. I prefer i3 anyways. It's more that I like the bleeding edge (I need it for a lot of stuff), and I hate having to re-install every six months.

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by vnglst on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:13AM (#12701253)
I always thought it's mostly used on the server. It's my go to dist on Digital Ocean for instance.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by Florin_Andrei on Thursday October 13, 2016 @04:07PM (#12703626)
I've used Linux for a very long time. Started with Slackware on floppies. Used Red Hat and derivatives for a long time, including at some large companies.

Nowadays I'm mostly with small, early stage companies in the Silicon Valley. From what I've seen in this environment, the OS of choice in production (cloud instances) is almost overwhelmingly Ubuntu.

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by mark_l_watson on Thursday October 13, 2016 @04:50PM (#12703930)
I started out by downloading a very minimal Slackware distro on a 2400baud dial up Internet connection. A few months later I bought Slackware (full) on about 50 floppies - I felt like a rich man having all of Slackware available. Good times.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by chrisper on Thursday October 13, 2016 @01:32PM (#12702505)
I am using it on the server because of LXD.

On the desktop, however, I use Debian Testing instead. I am waiting for the day when I can use LXD on Debian out of the box.

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by rcarmo on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:16AM (#12701279)
Been using Ubuntu LTS (NEVER the October releases) in production for years. As smooth as Debian for upgrading.

If you're breaking your system every six months, that's probably because you're using the October releases instead of sticking to the April ones (which are usually the LTS ones and have fewer experimental packages).

My rule of thumb is to only set up October releases for playing around and getting a feel for what's coming down the pipe, and NEVER use them for production. Only the .04 ones.

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by gcp on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:19AM (#12701297)
April (x.04) releases on even years are LTS. Not the odd ones.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by rcarmo on Thursday October 13, 2016 @01:00PM (#12702215)
I did say "usually". It's not as if I go about upgrading servers every season, that would be insane.

Oh, wait, this is the MEAN stack age :)

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by StavrosK on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:34AM (#12701403)
I use the latest version (a month or two after release) on my personal computers and the latest LTS on all my servers, and it's been very good so far.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:55AM (#12701607)
Really? when I tried that, I had to reinstall every six months or it would stop working.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by StavrosK on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:43PM (#12702061)
Really? Hmm, I've been upgrading the same installation since 10.04 or something, it's been working well. However, I did create a list of scripts at some point to make reinstallation a one-command affair:

https://www.stavros.io/posts/provisioning-your-computer-one-...

Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by thomnottom on Thursday October 13, 2016 @02:56PM (#12703130)
How would it "stop working"? I've done re-installations here and there, but I can't think of a single time that it just "stopped working". And yes, after a couple months I usually do an in place upgrade for my laptops, desktop, and servers that have all been running Ubuntu for a few years.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @08:06PM (#12705252)
Well, usually everything breaks, rendering the system unusable, requiring a reinstall. And than there was that time where the new kernel (somewhere in 3.x, IIRC) refused to boot on my setup (I'm running Intel x86-64, so nothing uncommon). But that only happened once.
Re:Canonical releases Ubuntu 16.10 by dtemp on Thursday October 13, 2016 @05:38PM (#12704261)
For what it's worth, I've had server installs that were upgraded 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 and they're fine.