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Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by gadders on Thursday October 13, 2016 @04:30AM (#12699302)
>> When you read 3 different versions of the same news story by BBC, NPR, and NYT (for example), then hopefully the biases sort of cancel out and you get something closer to the truth.

You list three left-leaning news organisations, and expect their biases to cancel out? Wouldn't they reinforce each other?

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by mbillie1 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @08:23AM (#12700225)
I am not accusing you personally of this, but the tactic of continually accusing more and more mainstream publications of being left-leaning in order to make room for e.g. Breitbart / InfoWars is becoming increasingly common, and it's a wholly fallacious argument. All you need to do is push the boundary of the extreme right quite far along and all the sudden all ordinary news outlets lean "left" by comparison.
Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by jazzyk on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:13PM (#12701765)
There is wide-spread consensus that BBC, NPR and NYT are left leaning.

But this is not about right/left anymore - the scary fact (and becoming patently obvious to more and more people) is the fact that all "mainstream" media is pro-establishment (whether it is left or right is less important). That's why outlets like Breitbart, warts and all, have been gaining so much popularity.

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by gadders on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:27PM (#12701907)
I know there are extreme right-wing news outlets, but there are also moderate "sensible" ones as well - the Daily Telegraph and Spectator in the UK, even the Daily Mail.

Breitbart isn't the anti-NYT, it's the anti-Daily Kos.

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by talmand on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:30AM (#12701371)
To be fair, the opposite is true as well.
Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by mbillie1 on Thursday October 13, 2016 @01:05PM (#12702256)
Absolutely - it's less about left/right and more about "I can discredit reasonable sources as biased by recalibrating what bias means based on these extreme outliers"
Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by MagnumOpus on Thursday October 13, 2016 @06:30AM (#12699709)
It is a sad reality that by now much all "right-leaning" media in the US freely lets unchecked lies permeate their reporting. This is true even for the WSJ's political news, let alone USA Today or Fox News which give equal space to fact and fiction.

Pretty much the only readable right wing media is foreign - but if he had suggested The Economist or the Financial Times you probably would have called them left-leaning too...

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by gadders on Thursday October 13, 2016 @07:00AM (#12699804)
I'd have thought the WSJ was pretty reliable. I'm not sure whether they permeate lies, but on the other side you have the NYT giving Hilary's campaign team copy-approval on what they write.

If you're after other right-wing UK publications you could try the Daily Telegraph or the Spectator.

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by jazzyk on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:24PM (#12701888)
Both the WSJ and The Economist represent interests of the Republican Party elite (WSJ) or the globalist elite (The Economist)

I could not believe my eyes when I saw The Economist devoting a full page to Trump's badly-fitting suits and overly-long ties, but musing over Clinton's numerous corruption scandals, because she is the preferred globalist candidate.

I am sad that even The Economist has fallen - I have been a subscriber for 25 years. Perhaps not much longer.

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by gadders on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:28PM (#12701919)
I agree with you on the Economist. Their Brexit coverage has been shocking.
Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by lambertsimnel on Thursday October 13, 2016 @07:10AM (#12699856)
Whether or not those three have a similar political viewpoint, they probably have different regional viewpoints, so there's still some value in combining them.

Almost any combination will omit some political stance. I don't believe that political viewpoints are binary, or even that they vary only along a single dimension.

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by craigyk on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:53PM (#12702137)
I'd say US news sources strive to hard to be "fair" where their definition of fair is based on a prior of both sides being on opposite sides, but equally distant, from some "center".

I can't go to CNN (what most on the "right" would consider "left") most days without seeing some headline about Trump unaccompanied by a headline about Hillary, in what I can presume is an attempt to be "balanced". The headlines are crafted to make things look equally revelatory. But when you read the articles you find that one is a serious strike (saying shocking things on a mic), and the other is usually a non-story, ie. leaked emails showing the candidate saying pretty much exactly what their public stance has been all along.

Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by MollyR on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:09AM (#12701218)
Do you mean establishment leaning rather than left-leaning, that's what I heard from trump and bernie people.
Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by DanBC on Thursday October 13, 2016 @08:59AM (#12700422)
BBC news is not left leaning. They're frequently criticised by the left in the UK for attacking the left.
Re:Facebook Has Repeatedly Trended Fake News Since Firing It... by gadders on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:24PM (#12701887)
They certainly are left-leaning. I'm not saying they are Labour party supporters, but they certainly espouse the same position as the Guardian on many subjects.