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Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by TrainedMonkey on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @06:26PM (#12648504)
Why not directly go to vat grown or 3d printed meat?
Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by xkcd-sucks on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @06:45PM (#12648615)
because an animal is a self-contained unit which manages disease and feed conversion that scales fairly predictably, while cultured meat has a pretty high entry barrier in terms of feedstock, sanitation etc
Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by bduerst on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @09:02PM (#12649312)
An animal is also terribly inefficient at converting water and feed into human-consumable nutrients, because it's optimized for survival and reproduction.

The vat based solution is more scalable in the long run, and not impossible (we do it with beer).

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by teslabox on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @09:23PM (#12649403)
> An animal is also terribly inefficient at converting water and feed into human-consumable nutrients,

I have an old book somewhere that says the milk cow is the most efficient means of converting a rocky hillside covered with grass into human-usable protein.

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by bduerst on Thursday October 06, 2016 @12:49PM (#12653947)
>a rocky hillside covered with grass

Yeah, that's scalable.

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by walrus01 on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @07:40PM (#12648934)
the cynic in me says that the "manages diseases" part will become increasingly untenable in the future, as antibiotic-resistant everything proliferate in feedlot environments, and american regulatory agencies fail to put a check on antibiotics mixed into animal feed.

reference: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/31/magazine/power-steer.html

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by marricks on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @06:52PM (#12648653)
Or, you know, actual plants, that are healthy and probably always going to be environmentally better because you cut out a middle man in calories to mouth, one that is now sentient...

It's weird how much people try and peddle different solutions and proteins like "low methane cows" or crickets!" Instead of something much simpler and already tried and true, beans nuts, grains, etc...

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by adwn on Thursday October 06, 2016 @04:04AM (#12650892)
> It's weird how much people try and peddle different solutions and proteins like "low methane cows" or crickets!" Instead of something much simpler and already tried and true, beans nuts, grains, etc...

Because very, very many people enjoy eating meat and meat-based products. Therefore, we're looking for alternative, better solutions.

Nothing weird about that.

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by marricks on Thursday October 06, 2016 @02:32PM (#12654851)
I think discussions about alt-meat need to discussed in a way that acknowledges they are solutions to a solved problem.

Perhaps my original reply was a bit too down on them, because I do agree that research is good!

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by dragonwriter on Thursday October 06, 2016 @02:40PM (#12654923)
> I think discussions about alt-meat need to discussed in a way that acknowledges they are solutions to a solved problem.

No, alt-meat is a solution to a problem of how to influence behavior to create particular results that is rather emphatically not solved.

Re:The Dizzying Grandeur of 21st Century Agriculture by snewk on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @06:28PM (#12648514)
economics, i would assume