Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by dragonwriter on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @03:25PM
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> Elon Musk is the only human being that can use the Zaphod Beeblebrox pickup line, "Do you wanna see my spaceship?".
Is Richard Branson not a human?
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by Chronic9q on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @03:41PM
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Hacker News has a huge boner for Elon Musk. They forget that others beat Musk and are well known for beating Musk (re: spaceships).
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by rbanffy on Thursday October 06, 2016 @12:51AM
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Only in the most literal sense they could be called spaceships. They are no more spaceships than a swimming suit is a boat.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by dragonwriter on Thursday October 06, 2016 @09:07AM
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Those two sentences are contradictory. A swimming suit is not a boat, especially in "the most literal sense."
A suborbital manned spacecraft, OTOH, is a spaceship in every sense. (It's neither an orbital spaceship nor, say, an interplanetary spaceship, but it's definitely a spaceship.)
Saying they aren't is like saying a riverboat isn't a boat because it's not ocean-going.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by rbanffy on Thursday October 06, 2016 @03:40PM
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A suborbital spaceship is analogous to a boat that can go into waters, just as long as they are knee-deep.
It can touch space, but a ship is not defined by its ability to touch the water.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by manicdee on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @09:30PM
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Does Richard Branson have passenger vehicles that can achieve interplanetary flight?
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by dragonwriter on Thursday October 06, 2016 @09:10AM
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No, but then neither does Musk, or anyone else, individual, corporate, or government.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by rbanffy on Thursday October 06, 2016 @12:55AM
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Not even get into orbit.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by ballooney on Thursday October 06, 2016 @03:13AM
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No one does.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by rbanffy on Thursday October 06, 2016 @12:50AM
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Suborbital flight is a stretch, but I agree Branson seems to be an inspiration for Zaphod's movie depiction.
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by cheeze on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @03:59PM
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Uhh, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos?
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by wtallis on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @04:12PM
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For the moment, I suppose you can still make a case for casual use of the term "spaceship" to include suborbital flights. I doubt that will continue for very long as private orbital spacecraft and launch vehicles become less novel; the sub-orbital minor leagues probably won't be seen by most as being the "real thing".
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by njloof on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @04:36PM
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Just ask Alan Shepard. You know, the first American in space?
Re:Boeing CEO Vows to Beat Musk to Mars
by blacksmith_tb on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @05:12PM
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Presumably because in this sense, the Mercury wasn't "his spaceship" as he didn't own it or the organization that produced it (like Gagarin and the Vostok, for that matter).
That's pretty awesome.