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Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by timecube on Monday October 03, 2016 @05:52PM (#12631661)
A big issue with allowing organ markets is that impoverished people can practically be forced to sell their organs.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by lenkite on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @02:59AM (#12633758)
I request you to kindly read up more on this subject. Your 'big issue' already exists today! The poor in countries like India are already forced to sell their organs to rich donors in the West through the black market where they are paid a pittance. Debt collectors in India make a killing by preying on the poor. The rich pay the middle-men a truck load of money, but the actual donor gets very little at the end. Formally paying donors will at-least give them a much better price without the middle-men taking most of the money.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by chrisseaton on Monday October 03, 2016 @05:59PM (#12631714)
Yes, often welfare systems won't give you aid if you have assets such as cash or a home. Would your organs be considered assets?
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by gutnor on Monday October 03, 2016 @07:30PM (#12632235)
I don't have worry about the welfare system not giving aid. The condition are generally often quite reasonable and there are going to be plenty of organisation to watch that over.

What I worry about, is in countries like the US/UK where "having a student debt" has somehow become a badge of honour, I can see "selling a kidney" to get through university becoming the same honourable demonstration that you are committed to do what it take to succeed.

... and by extension, show people who are not as committed. You can see it coming: "my son sold his kidney to succeed, why should we give even more to the people that are not even ready to take such a small step".

In general, we seem to expect people to take an ever growing amount of risk for the reward of maintaining their social standing. Being able to sell your body in piece is just raising the bar even higher.

Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by bcherny on Monday October 03, 2016 @06:58PM (#12632059)
I'm not sure if it was ever verified, but reminds me of this story from 2005 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/148...
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by tremon on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @05:38AM (#12634317)
At the risk of sounding bitter: it's from a UK "newspaper" and it concerns mainland Europe. You should assume the article needs additional proof, not just verification.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by randyrand on Monday October 03, 2016 @06:46PM (#12631986)
a rather easy solution to that would be to bar the poor from being paid. Sounds unfeasible, but for example -- we were also able to bar the poor from investing with the "accredited investors" title.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by AstralStorm on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @01:25PM (#12637306)
Does not work. Middle men and black market will still exist.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by randyrand on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @04:59PM (#12639419)
the black market exists regardless.

Middle men are easy to fix. Require the kidney transplant be done in a registered location and don't accept "nameless" kidneys.

Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by ekianjo on Monday October 03, 2016 @06:37PM (#12631946)
That's what's happening right now on the black market. With a real market you can ensure that this kind of things does not happen. (or at least control it)
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by nostrebored on Monday October 03, 2016 @07:39PM (#12632276)
I'm sorry, but why would you risk death to make a few thousand dollars if you're not poor? This practice significantly targets the poor and desperate. The same issues that come with legalization of prostitution and sex trafficking impact the organ trade.

So do the same failed arguments -- how has legalization and regulation of the market gone for Germany? Or rather how has it gone for German prostitutes, because from a tax revenue perspective Germany is doing wonderfully, with the perverse incentive to keep exploiting poor and trafficked women.

Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by JamesBarney on Monday October 03, 2016 @07:24PM (#12632207)
Why would they be forced to sell their organs?
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by sean2 on Monday October 03, 2016 @09:29PM (#12632718)
Because a common occurrence when your poor is: You need $500 to pay for some debt now or a chain reaction will destroy your life. You've taken as much as your family has been willing to lend you and you've taken as much as the system (as much as you can understand it) is willing to loan you. You don't have that money.

Luckily, someone is offering $1,000 for a kidney and you're compatible! You can fix your car / post your bail / pay the loan shark, with $500 left over!

You're pretty much forced to sell your organ at this point. And this point is reached all the time by the economically disadvantaged.

Of course, without the last resort of selling body parts they'd be even more screwed, so I don't know the right thing to implement in this case. Just wanted to answer your question.

Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by smcnally on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @12:15AM (#12633304)
I don't disagree the poor would be targeted or coerced to participate. I do disagree people would be "forced," en masse, to donate organs. I also think removing it as an option misses a lot of opportunities.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by timecube on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @02:53PM (#12638212)
If you can't get government assistance because you have an "extra" kidney, and you need to feed your family, I wouldn't call that decision anything other than forced.
Re:A kidney donor at 18 now regrets it by smcnally on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @08:09PM (#12640680)
Is a government somewhere witholding assistance from anyone because they're not donating blood or an organ? Or is this a "logical conclusion" you presume it would be taken to should monetary compensation be made available to donors?