Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by glhaynes on Friday April 09, 2010 @11:16AM
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I don't believe any of that (including all of it simultaneously) will be impossible on iPhone OS 4.
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Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by jbellis on Friday April 09, 2010 @11:25AM
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"Notably missing? Anything for managing a conversation, like IM or Twitter, which is a big omission."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/multitasking-comes-to-iph...
Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by glhaynes on Friday April 09, 2010 @02:45PM
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The idea is to use the Push Notification Service for that. Whether that's a good solution to the problem or not is up for debate. (It works fine for me for IM; I don't know of a service that uses it to notify about Twitter events but there might be one.)
Can you write an alarm clock app? I don't see any way to make that work. There is no system-level service to tie into. It seems to me that the iPhone 'multitasking' model prevents a great many use cases.
Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by troystribling on Friday April 09, 2010 @12:36PM
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Local notifications?
Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by rimantas on Friday April 09, 2010 @01:04PM
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Yes, exactly.
Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by viraptor on Friday April 09, 2010 @11:28AM
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The way it was presented, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to run an application which should stay connected while I'm doing something else. So IRC + anything is pretty much excluded. Also skype will be integrated in a way that it takes your desktop space, instead of just being there in the background.
Maybe I understood it wrong, but that was my impression from the presentation.
Skype seems to work just like the normal Phone app. Watch the demo starting 22:25 (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/)
Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by viraptor on Friday April 09, 2010 @12:00PM
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My point about skype was not that it cannot be backgrounded, but as I said "skype will be integrated in a way that it takes your desktop space". Not sure what happens when you have more accounts - if you can do that at all and if it continues adding new bars... but I prefer it completely invisible like in N900 (especially when I have 2 voip accounts and 3 more voice-capable xmpp accounts online)
I doesn’t take anything. The double high status bar is a standard UI convention of iPhone OS. It appears when something requires your interaction and is in the background (like ending the call or stopping the voice recording).
Re: Multitasking - iPhone OS 4 vs Nokia N900
by glhaynes on Friday April 09, 2010 @11:36AM
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Ah, I think you may be right about IRC. Apple continues to want such things to be done via Push Notifications. Which is a pretty good solution for most things, though not all. E.g. I do IM (Windows Live) via Meebo, an app that uses notifications, and don't have any problems with it. IRC seems like it could work pretty well through such a system, too, though I don't know if anybody offers that service.
They specifically showed Skype as being able to run (continue calls or receive new ones) in the background through a very similar UI to the current built-in "Phone" app, so I think you'd be good on that one.