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Re:Investing for Geeks by asmithmd1 on Friday September 16, 2016 @08:33PM (#12518436)
I don't understand why I have to be permanently lowering my risk exposure. If Trump wins the election, the market will tank. Everyone knows this so lets say a 20% risk of him winning thus causing a 40% drop is currently priced in - the market right now is ~8% lower because of the risk of a Trump presidency. I am not willing to expose myself to that risk so just yesterday I moved my 401k out of the market. If Trump loses, the market will probably pop up but I am willing to forgo that gain to not expose myself to the downside.

The important point I haven't seen mentioned is that the money you put in the market should not be needed for 10 years. Not money you plan to buy a house in about 5 years, or maybe use to get married about 10 years from now. From 1929 to 1933 the DJIA went down 88% before starting to recover. Ten years is really too short a time horizon, you should have a 20 year perspective or longer. If you had invested the day before the 1929 crash and kept your money in the whole time you would not have broken even, adjusting for inflation, until 1957 - 28 years later.

Re:Investing for Geeks by wtvanhest on Friday September 16, 2016 @09:02PM (#12518537)
You are market timing.
Re:Investing for Geeks by asmithmd1 on Friday September 16, 2016 @09:35PM (#12518646)
Yes I am. Trump will probably lose and I will have lower returns this year.

Would I be market timing if instead of moving out of the market to avoid the Trump winning risk, I borrowed money to buy shares in an election market?

https://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/quotes/Pres16_quotes.html

If Trump wins, I triple the money I put into election shares but lose in my 401k. If Trump loses, the increase in my 401k will cover my loss in the election market.

Re:Investing for Geeks by wtvanhest on Friday September 16, 2016 @09:48PM (#12518684)
I don't think you understand the basics of investing.
Re:Investing for Geeks by asmithmd1 on Friday September 16, 2016 @10:06PM (#12518735)
I laid out two strategies to hedge a specific, finite duration risk. Instead of an ad hominem attack, do you have any comments on either strategy?
Re:Investing for Geeks by wtvanhest on Friday September 16, 2016 @11:42PM (#12519014)
What if trump loses and the market goes down?
Re:Investing for Geeks by loeg on Saturday September 17, 2016 @01:06AM (#12519216)
What if trump wins and the market goes up, too? Things that "everyone knows" are already priced in.
Re:Investing for Geeks by wtvanhest on Saturday September 17, 2016 @02:36AM (#12519437)
Yup, exactly