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Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by melling on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:03AM (#12496934)
A million miles? That doesn't sound like a lot. Uber currently only has 14 self-driving cars but they are approaching 200,000 drivers. In 2-3 years, they could require a certain level of "automation" for all their drivers in order to gather data. They'll have hundreds of millions of miles.

How many Tesla cars have with their self-driving feature? 20,000 cars? They'll have 100,000 cars RSN.

By 2020, we will have 2 orders of magnitude more data.

Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by jonknee on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @11:36AM (#12498018)
> By 2020, we will have 2 orders of magnitude more data.

Sure, but so will Google. Their latest claim is > 1.5m autonomous miles and thanks to their Streetview project they have a ton more detailed mapping data than that.

Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by melling on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:14PM (#12498430)
Google doesn't currently have a plan to scale.

Btw, I'm not saying that Google didn't do a great job, and make valuable progress. The game, however, is about to take a huge leap. Google was an early investor in Uber and many thought they were going to cooperate.

Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by azylman on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:25PM (#12498586)
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted... Tesla already collects as much sensor data in a day as Google has in the entire history of their program.
Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by DannyBee on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @07:06PM (#12501976)
Because it's wrong.

First, tesla collects zero lidar data. So no, they don't, because they don't collect the same kind of sensor data.

The second assumption is that the sensor data google is collecting, that is similar to tesla's, can only be collected by google's self driving fleet ,and not any of the other ways google has to collect data.

Because, as above, it's not the same kind of sensor data, this is also false.

Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by melling on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @07:39PM (#12502175)
And Uber? i didn't make any claims about the current status, but a few years out. Tesla is using radar, instead of lidar, and cameras. Their goal is fully autonomous and they believe they can do it with their current set up. Their equipment could change, of course, but they will soon be shipping 100,000 cars a year.
Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by greglindahl on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @07:42PM (#12502191)
While you're picking nits and calling things wrong, note that a lidar-equipped Tesla has been seen at Tesla HQ. So it's not zero, but that's OK, I won't refer to your statement as being "false", just over-confident.
Re:Uber starts self-driving car pickups in Pittsburgh by Fricken on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:04PM (#12507821)
One could say something like 'Reddit produces more words in 24 minutes than Shakespeare produced in his career', but there is a substantial qualitative difference between those two datasets.