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Re:Ask HN: Is web programming a series of hacks on hacks? by idlewords on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:17AM (#12477584)
The web lets you reach a large audience in a way nothing else can. You have to get over yourself about the tools not being elegant, and make sure the thing you're using the flawed tools for is worth the aggravation.
Re:Ask HN: Is web programming a series of hacks on hacks? by dordoka on Monday September 12, 2016 @04:59AM (#12478146)
The fact that you can reach a massive audience doesn't make any less true that the tooling sucks. If that first fact wasn't true, we would not be commenting on this issue...
Re:Ask HN: Is web programming a series of hacks on hacks? by johncolanduoni on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:25AM (#12477619)
That doesn't mean it isn't terrible to work with and couldn't be much better. Unless you think the tool flaws are inescapable aspects of reaching a large audience?
Re:Ask HN: Is web programming a series of hacks on hacks? by axlprose on Monday September 12, 2016 @03:47AM (#12477889)
> You have to get over yourself about the tools not being elegant

https://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/07/11/a-bad-workman-blam...

Jokes aside, the history of mathematics is a pretty worthwhile subject to study to truly appreciate the importance and implications of tools (or mathematical discoveries in this case). There's a reason why it took humans 2000 years after Euclid first wrote his 'Elements' to discover non-euclidean geometry...

Re:Ask HN: Is web programming a series of hacks on hacks? by wvenable on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:21AM (#12477605)
That's why it's so successful. There has to be a reason something so terrible could possibly be this successful and you hit the nail on the head.
Re:Ask HN: Is web programming a series of hacks on hacks? by emodendroket on Monday September 12, 2016 @09:29AM (#12479464)